What are y’all’s thoughts on ai Kpop groups (2 Viewers)

[LoveforYe_na]

Nah I can't in good faith support ai. It's just art theft and ultra lazy when there are actual artists out here producing quality work that need commissions to survive. And I am not being a hypocrite as I am a person who pays $40-100 for art commissions done by actual humans

this is so beautiful like low-key majestic

 

[centen]

Not my thing. I want real people behind art and AI to do boring stuff like optimizing data or something.

But regardless, I think AI anything should be required to be labeled. Not just AI groups, but photos, videos, writing, etc. If you (for some reason) want to buy a puzzle with a design made by AI, then you do you, but you should be informed that's what it is.

 

[TrinityJade]

I mean I'd prefer that they weren't made but obviously we're in a period of time now where it's a huge part of our life
I'd just want it to be known that it's AI and have a clear label and I don't think I'd ever listen to it

 

[eclipsoul]

i wholeheartedly despise all kinds of ai "art"

 

[Yseki]

i wholeheartedly despise all kinds of ai "art"

Art not made by a person is totally pointless. A machine can imitate art even if the final product is the most perfect thing ever made it would still not be art. The machine can't feel emotions, it does not suffer, it does not die, it does not feel hope, joy etc. The machine makes something, but it isn't art.

 

[Yseki]

different strokes for different folks

some people like AI and others don't

I personally prefer humans but others might like AI idols or AI generated music - all the more merrier for them...

and remember AI as it currently is, is the worst it will ever be (meaning it will only become more powerful and prevalent moving forward)

AI no matter how powerful it will become, will never become a net benefit to humans. It is a product of the system it was made under, and it is made to serve its corporate creators in their goal of making more money, not for the benefit of humanity or to improve society in any way.

In a world where AI meets the goals of the people that create and fund it, 99% of humanity could die and those in power would find it convenient and be perfectly okay with that.

We only have value as working class people to the people in power because we are a resource they use, so that they can make more money. We provide them with our labor either physical or mental and they pay us a tiny portion of the value we create them, the difference between what they pay us and what they keep for themselves is their profit.

Machines don't need bathroom breaks, they don't get tired or injured, they don't want rights, they don't have to eat, or have dreams, they don't protest, they don't talk back.

 

[Selfmate]

AI no matter how powerful it will become, will never become a net benefit to humans. It is a product of the system it was made under, and it is made to serve its corporate creators in their goal of making more money, not for the benefit of humanity or to improve society in any way.

In a world where AI meets the goals of the people that create and fund it, 99% of humanity could die and those in power would find it convenient and be perfectly okay with that.

We only have value as working class people to the people in power because we are a resource they use, so that they can make more money. We provide them with our labor either physical or mental and they pay us a tiny portion of the value we create them, the difference between what they pay us and what they keep for themselves is their profit.

Machines don't need bathroom breaks, they don't get tired or injured, they don't want rights, they don't have to eat, or have dreams, they don't protest, they don't talk back.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you my friend but being anti such technology may not be the best way to go about it given that it is very much in our lives...

of course it is very much designed in a way as to benefit the rich and powerful and corporations (like many things in the world) BUT we as individuals have very little say in whether AI gets used or sometimes even forced on us

It is my choice to learn what it is and to make the best of the situation

 

[Yseki]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you my friend but being anti such technology may not be the best way to go about it given that it is very much in our lives...

of course it is very much designed in a way as to benefit the rich and powerful and corporations (like many things in the world) BUT we as individuals have very little say in whether AI gets used or sometimes even forced on us

It is my choice to learn what it is and to make the best of the situation

The technology isn't the problem it's the ownership and goals of the people in power and the system that the technology works in. The same was true during the industrial revolution and the choices that the owners of factories made back then.

Machines and the productivity increase they create could be used for the benefit of society, but instead because of the current system technology is used to replace people. For example, you have 10 weavers who make clothing, under capitalism when you automate this with eclectic looms you fire nine people and have one person working on the electric loom doing the job that ten people were previously doing.

In my pervious example I explained the capitalist logic and use for technology which is to replace workers when productivity increases. In a fairer system, you could keep all ten workers using electrical looms and you could decrease the hours worked by the workers and keep their pay the same, they would have the same output they did before as their productivity massively increased due to the machines.

Machines a great benefit to society, the problem is not the machines.

You as an individual do not have the power to do something, but collectively we do have power. Organize, unionize etc together we have more power than those at the top and a better world for everyone can be created.

 

[Selfmate]

The technology isn't the problem it's the ownership and goals of the people in power and the system that the technology works in. The same was true during the industrial revolution and the choices that the owners of factories made back then.

Machines and productive gain could be used for the benefit of society, but instead because of the current system technology is used to replace people. For example, you have 10 weavers who make clothing, under capitalism when you automate this with eclectic looms you fire nine people and have one person working on the electric loom doing the job that ten people were previously doing.

Technology increased the productivity of the workers. In my pervious example I explained the capitalist logic and use for technology which is to replace workers when productivity increases. In a fairer system, you could keep all ten workers using electrical looms and you could decrease the hours worked by the workers and keep their pay the same and they would have the same output as the productivity of the job increased due to the machines.

Machines a great benefit to society, the problem is not the machines.

You as an individual do not have the power to do something, but collectively we do have power. Organize, unionize etc together we have more power than those at the top and a better world for everyone can be created.

again I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you my friend however as you have rightly mentioned history has shown us that those in power will just do the same thing again when machines and AI become more powerful.

There has never been a FAIR system - the system was designed by those in power to keep those without in check

if you want to fight the system then all the more power to those that want to change the world and make it a better place - I fully support your actions BUT I can't (or rather that I don't have the time and energy to) - I have a family I have obligations I have responsibilities which supersedes any personal wants to "do something about it"

if that makes me complicit for keeping the status quo then so be it

 

[Yseki]

again I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you my friend however as you have rightly mentioned history has shown us that those in power will just do the same thing again when machines and AI become more powerful.

There has never been a FAIR system - the system was designed by those in power to keep those without in check

if you want to fight the system then all the more power to those that want to change the world and make it a better place - I fully support your actions BUT I can't (or rather that I don't have the time and energy to) - I have a family I have obligations I have responsibilities which supersedes any personal wants to "do something about it"

if that makes me complicit for keeping the status quo then so be it

One day I hope you realize that having a family is one of the biggest motivations to hope and work to a better future. More and more people are pushed into homelessness and abject poverty.

The more material conditions worsen for more people and get worse for people at the very bottom (as this very bottom expands) the more unstable society becomes and the harder it will become to live a peaceful normal life as the society around you fall apart.


I wish you the best, we all do what we can. I'm not trying to be an ass it's just a lot of people where I live don't realize there is not really anything such as true individualism for regular people, we live with/among other people and the actions of others change the choices you are able to have as an individual and the actions you can take. Make sure you have support networks, whether it be extended family, organizations/clubs your apart of etc and don't feel ashamed for accepting aid from others like food banks, hopefully you won't need them, but life happens.

 

[Selfmate]

One day I hope you realize that having a family is one of the biggest motivations to hope and work to a better future. More and more people are pushed into homelessness and abject poverty.

The more material conditions worsen for more people and get worse for people at the very bottom (as this very bottom expands) the more unstable society becomes and the harder it will become to live a peaceful normal life as the society around you fall apart.


I wish you the best, we all do what we can. I'm not trying to be an ass it's just a lot of people where I live don't realize there is not really anything such as true individualism for regular people, we live with/among other people and the actions of others change the choices you are able to have as an individual and the actions you can take. Make sure you have support networks, whether it be extended family, organizations/clubs your apart of etc and don't feel ashamed for accepting aid from others like food banks, hopefully you won't need them, but life happens.

I've some of that those things with my very eyes that people get kicked of their homes or lose their jobs and they aren't even the ones at the very bottom bottom

unfortunately the rich get richer whilst the poor fight for scraps

I think the one of the biggest differences between mindsets of the rich and poor is EMPATHY - the ability to feel and care for others and especially those who aren't like us whether it be social economic status or wealth or power or religion or colour of one's skin etc etc
I think there was an actual study done about this or something that showed certain types of people had less empathy than other people lol

also I'll leave you with this from one of my fav shows (which is coming back)
(even if you haven't seen the show this scene is very poignant)

 

[velvet]

Fuck no man, hate them

 

[velvet]

(meaning it will only become more powerful and prevalent moving forward)

OpenAI will run out of money by 2027, it's not becoming more powerful, it eats up money and water.

 

[Selfmate]

OpenAI will run out of money by 2027, it's not becoming more powerful, it eats up money and water.

that's one of them but not the only one in the world lol

 

[velvet]

that's one of them but not the only one in the world lol

It's promising though, the fact that it's useless to a lot of people means it'll probably shrink, and hopefully it will, nobody needs ai answers on google search lmao

 

[snsd2beg]

Total bullshit. Art is a human's job.

 

[Selfmate]

It's promising though, the fact that it's useless to a lot of people means it'll probably shrink, and hopefully it will, nobody needs ai answers on google search lmao

well a fool and their money are soon parted lol

 

[alo]

no, just no. fuck ai "art"

if you want to see something in the world, fucking make it yourself. it'll be bad, it'll be messy, but it'll still be beautiful and full of heart and soul because a human being made it!!

this is something someone once told me which I'll never forget:
natural stupidity always outweighs artificial intelligence

 

[ani07]

I dont think its really needed

 

[sooya_]

they can be... interesting