Why I-fans should be able to vote for Produce 101 groups (2 Viewers)

[Hwallya]

I mean i Know that the groups are for Koreans
But they want the groups to be on billboard ,lmao

 

[blueberries]

Well it's bit ridiculous how they continuously state how they are making global boy group or girl group during the show, but then only give koreans opportunity to vote. It was weirdest during Produce 48 cause half of the trainees are japanese and from AKB48, the group is going to promote in both countries and release music in both languages, but they didn't give japanese people chance to vote.

I think the outcome of the group would be better as well if international fans were allowed to vote, the groups would be more balanced.

 

[Evergreen]

Some Knetzs wouldn’t be happy about that but I agree.

 

[Darkyoda47]

Well it's bit ridiculous how they continuously state how they are making global boy group or girl group during the show, but then only give koreans opportunity to vote. It was weirdest during Produce 48 cause half of the trainees are japanese and from AKB48, the group is going to promote in both countries and release music in both languages, but they didn't give japanese people chance to vote.

I think the outcome of the group would be better as well if international fans were allowed to vote, the groups would be more balanced.

They initially did let Japanese people vote but scrapped the system just before the show started. It was a very last minute scrap too. Rumor has it that the Japanese votes overcrowded the votes and almost 90% of the top 20 were Japanese idols. So, in fear that only like 2 Korean idols would make the group, they stopped the Japanese votes from coming in.

 

[Darkyoda47]

I feel like i-fans would vote for a group that would not appeal to the Korean market at all. If that were to happen, the group is almost guaranteed to flop. Whether we like it or not, with the exception of BTS, the Korean market is still 80% responsible for if a group makes it in the industry or not. If the produce groups aren't catered to Korean taste, we can kiss almost any hope of success beyond the physical market goodbye.

 

[dokyeomon]

I really don't understand what made them exclude i-fans after i.o.i,especially since they're by far the most well-rounded group to come out of the show.

They initially did let Japanese people vote but scrapped the system just before the show started. It was a very last minute scrap too. Rumor has it that the Japanese votes overcrowded the votes and almost 90% of the top 20 were Japanese idols. So, in fear that only like 2 Korean idols would make the group, they stopped the Japanese votes from coming in.

Iirc the earliest format was that the japanese could only vote for korean trainees and vice versa,but that got scrapped

 

[Riasama]

I-fans shouldn't be allowed to vote imo. It's a korean group not a western.

 

[Hwallya]

I-fans shouldn't be allowed to vote imo. It's a korean group not a western.

Then They shouldn't be talking about getting on billboard ,be a global group

 

[Salalalala]

Nope, in my very honest opinion I’m glad how the groups ended up, I don’t think I would like IZ*PNE half as much as I did if international fans had been allowed to vote.

 

[Administrator2]

How about we just scrape PD completely it sucks anyway

 

[RainbowDevil]

I really don't understand what made them exclude i-fans after i.o.i,especially since they're by far the most well-rounded group to come out of the show.


Iirc the earliest format was that the japanese could only vote for korean trainees and vice versa,but that got scrapped

But X1 is more well-rounded already It's the first group that isn't 95% visuals. Tho they are attractive all of them (except Eunsang) excel at something. Tho that's not the theme of this thread and you have your own opinion on it.

As far as votes go, I'd love for it to be implemented, especially since X1 was supposed to be a global group and yet it's the only group without a foreigner... so that isn't very global. Not that I liked most of the foreign idols but still giving i-fans the vote would in no way lessen how the group ends up, it would build an all-around loved group. And yes Wanna One's success was mosty Korean but it doesn't have to be like that for future endeavors.

If BTS,Monsta X and Seventeen can make it with a large int. fan base so could the most popular survival show in Korea.

 

[blueberries]

They initially did let Japanese people vote but scrapped the system just before the show started. It was a very last minute scrap too. Rumor has it that the Japanese votes overcrowded the votes and almost 90% of the top 20 were Japanese idols. So, in fear that only like 2 Korean idols would make the group, they stopped the Japanese votes from coming in.

That sounds quite problematic, maybe they could have balanced it somehow like that no matter how much more japanese vote 50% would always come from korea, though there is question of the fairness even then.

 

[Darkyoda47]

That sounds quite problematic, maybe they could have balanced it somehow like that no matter how much more japanese vote 50% would always come from korea, though there is question of the fairness even then.

Well the fairness turned out for the worse anyway with only 3 Japanese idols making it.

 

[RandAlThor]

Well the fairness turned out for the worse anyway with only 3 Japanese idols making it.

Count Hyewon a a J vote then its 8/4 because she made it mostly on her interaction with the j line. This is close to the correct participation split given that 5 trainees quit the show.
The problem was 6 /6 was not the right split really ever. 7/5 , 8/4 is what should have been projected from the start. (34/91) x 12 is 4.4

I think getting 8 and 5 akb into the final split the vote.

looking at the 9
Stone votes look to have moved to Yuri. (3 in top 30)
Yeuhua to Yena . (3 in top 30)
2 Kim were on the rise the whole show, and Chaewon looks to have got some of Eunbi's early vote.
Kura fans aside Wonyoung is the perfect k center.
Both Starship girls were effectively locks from the start, baring international fans whining about her age.
That leaves Hyewon and Chaeyeon.

I think I am killed Kaeun's as a young gg member in the voting public's eyes.

Miyu and Miho were extreme yo yo ranks, great story's but there was 4 redemption stories in the final 20.
Juri just never got over the hump at 15.
I really thought NMB pulled the plug on Miru.
Miu had that pr nightmare(unfair as it was) ongoing the whole show.

 

[Darkyoda47]

Count Hyewon a a J vote then its 8/4 because she made it mostly on her interaction with the j line. This is close to the correct participation split given that 5 trainees quit the show.
The problem was 6 /6 was not the right split really ever. 7/5 , 8/4 is what should have been projected from the start. (34/91) x 12 is 4.4

I wanted 7/5 tbh. But well, I'm happy with the current lineup too tbh.

 

[Jichuus]

I’d rather international fans not vote at all. There’s the assumption that it would be a balanced group at the end but many don’t remember that IOI was not the result of international voting. Produce was scoffed by many international fans and most only ended up voting for Somi. It was after IOI blew up in Korea and their disbandment grew closer, people grew an interest.

Plus there would be countless voting inflation because of SEA fans, making it harder to legitimize the votes. And many international picks this season where contestants like Peak or trainees that met international beauty standards, who were not ready to debut yet, so I think there wouldn’t be a talented group at the end either. I’m the end, Mnet knows what they’re doing with Produce.