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These are the real leaders, the ones who paved ways!

BoA - Y'all faves wouldn't be promoting in Japan without her!


Super Juniors Hangeng - without him, your non-Korean faves wouldn't be here!


Wonder Girls - American debut, thank the girls for paving the way


EXO - Your faves are selling many albums? Tell EXO thanks for repopularizing physical copies!


Add more if you can think of them!
 

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actually the first gen idols since they freaking started the genre, started the formula of groups we love use today
 

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All of these acts were groundbreaking and really popular and amazing. But the 'actually' is needless, the point of the 'Paved the Way' statement in terms of BTS is -

Wait, no, I'm gonna stop myself there. Concentrating on the comeback. This stuff is silly and BTS's real challenges with this CB aren't even from the kpop industry. Anticipate Boy With Luv and the possible second single, everyone!

 
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All of these acts were groundbreaking and really popular and amazing. But the 'actually' is needless, the point of the 'Paved the Way' statement in terms of BTS is -

Wait, no, I'm gonna stop myself there. Concentrating on the comeback. This stuff is silly and BTS's real challenges with this CB aren't even from the kpop industry. Anticipate Boy With Luv and the possible second single, everyone!

I agree that BTS paved the way (Or well if not yet, are currently paving it), but I am done of people speaking about it like it is some grand thing that should be shouted from the rooftops.
 

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BoA counts as 1st gen
BoA is weird to type tough. More or less Solos dominated after 2000 until TVXQ debuted.
Real first gen would be Sechskies, H.O.T, Shinwha, G.O.D
 
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I agree that BTS paved the way (Or well if not yet, are currently paving it), but I am done of people speaking about it like it is some grand thing that should be shouting from the rooftops.
I get that; there was a lot of shouting and damn was it repetitive. I also get why ARMYs do it, the amount of undermining BTS gets in the kpop community (so does BP, so not to say BTS is the only one. I can't believe the needless, oversize hate the girls have gotten the last few days, and I don't mean the criticisms about music and choreo.) is really weird and frustrating as well.

And to ARMY it IS a grand thing - here's this non-big-three group without extensive mediaplay and who were mocked and dragged for years after debut and almost went bankrupt and they're breaking into the west organically and it's amazing. It's so huge and we're just really really proud of them and hype! Also, there still seems to be a need to underplay their achievements, so we shout them and try to make sure that doesn't continue. We engage with reporters, we remind them BTS paved the way, maybe they do their research and discover it's true, and the group's achievements don't get downplayed or dismissed as 'crazy boy band fangirl power' in the next article they write.

It's obnoxious at times. but it works!
 
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I get that; there was a lot of shouting and damn was it repetitive. I also get why ARMYs do it, the amount of undermining BTS gets in the kpop community (so does BP, so not to say BTS is the only one. I can't believe the needless, oversize hate the girls have gotten the last few days, and I don't mean the criticisms about music and choreo.) is really weird and frustrating as well.

And to ARMY it IS a grand thing - here's this non-big-three group without extensive mediaplay and who were mocked and dragged for years after debut and almost went bankrupt and they're breaking into the west organically and it's amazing. It's so huge and we're just really really proud of them and hype! Also, there still seems to be a need to underplay their achievements, so we shout them and try to make sure that doesn't continue. We engage with reporters, we remind them BTS paved the way, maybe they do their research and discover it's true, and the group's achievements don't get downplayed or dismissed as 'crazy boy band fangirl power' in the next article they write.

It's obnoxious at times. but it works!
Well with the underdog story I have a problem with how ARMY often portray it. It is usually the new ARMYs who know that BTS used to be nugus, but can't really understand what it means.

Like I have seen so many people going around saying EXO-ls hated BTS from debut and that BTS were nugus in the same sentence. That is literally like saying ARMY have hated MVP since debut. Most army's go huh? when hearing the name. Same with EXO-Ls and BTS in 2013/2014.

(Not to mention, BTS weren't also as nugu as they are often said to have been... They literally won a MAMA rookie award in 2013)

And yes it is huge, but the underplaying won't stop because you annoy people. For reporters it might work, but for fans of other groups it just makes them really done.
 
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He surveyed the land
Planed the rood
Cleared it.
Leveled it
Paved it
Then turned it into a super highway.

Almost every single act or company can be traced back to LSM, certainly all the biggest.
 

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He surveyed the land
Planed the rood
Cleared it.
Leveled it
Paved it
Then turned it into a super highway.

Almost every single act or company can be traced back to LSM, certainly all the biggest.
THE TRUTH!

And he is also sensible, he isn't trying to climb onto the stage with the idols like YG and JYP are!
 
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but I am done of people speaking about it like it is some grand thing that should be shouted from the rooftops.
Same - but with all those people coming up with 1st and 2nd gen groups, literally all the time, whenever BTS pops up.
I mean... HELLOOOOOOOO? It's freaking 2019, not bloody 2000 anymore. We're talking about the recent years, not decades. (srsly, why do people not get that?)

Not only well-known music critics say that [BTS paving the way]. Groups such as Monsta X, Twice or Seo Taiji, among others: they all said that BTS is paving the way.

Even EXO is lacking nowadays - and they were reigning once. "Ko Ko Bop" was more of a "Ko Ko Flop" and even their recent comeback songs doesn't really seem to stick with people (fans excluded, for obvious reasons).
 

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Same - but with all those people coming up with 1st and 2nd gen groups, literally all the time, whenever BTS pops up.
I mean... HELLOOOOOOOO? It's freaking 2019, not bloody 2000 anymore. We're talking about the recent years, not decades. (srsly, why do people not get that?)

Plus, not only well-known music critics say that [BTS paving the way]. Groups such as Monsta X, Twice or Seo Taiji, among others: they all said that BTS is paving the way.

Even EXO is lacking nowadays - and they were reigning once. "Ko Ko Bop" was more of a "Ko Ko Flop" and even their recent comeback songs doesn't really seem to stick with people (fans excluded, for obvious reasons).
Only idiots these days are claiming BTS are not doing something legendary or paving the way. That doesn't mean people like it being shoved into their faces, so if they get annoyed, they annoy people back.

And EXO lacking... Where? Literally where? I get that you might not like their songs, but quite a lot of people do! Not to mention EXO's Chen slaying the charts with his solo debut right now!

PS: A lot of EXO-Ls don't like Koko Bop either, EXO's best songs are almost always their B-sides. I know very few EXO-Ls whose favorite tracks are title tracks.
 
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Same - but with all those people coming up with 1st and 2nd gen groups, literally all the time, whenever BTS pops up.
I mean... HELLOOOOOOOO? It's freaking 2019, not bloody 2000 anymore. We're talking about the recent years, not decades. (srsly, why do people not get that?)
The thing is, people say others paved the way for BTS because its been proven that those artists paved the way for something. BTS are in the now, and they’re doing amazingly well. However until somebody in x amount of years does something else, nobody can say what BTS have done because we’re still currently in it, what BTS have done is so far only really benefitting BTS rather than kpop.

For example EXO back in 2013 were the first artist since 2001 to sell a million physical copies of an album. That led to a rise in fans buying physical copies of albums, eventually leading to BTS going beyond a million.
 
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what BTS have done is so far only really benefitting BTS rather than kpop.
Excuse me, but I think I heard Monsta X, NCT 127 and Black Pink shaking in disbelief 😂 Weren't these groups trying (or still trying) to break into the US market because of BTS doing it successfully? 🤔
 

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Excuse me, but I think I heard Monsta X, NCT 127 and Black Pink shaking in disbelief 😂 Weren't these groups trying (or still trying) to break into the US market because of BTS doing it successfully? 🤔
If they are still trying than the way isn't paved yet though. :pandaamazed:

Don't take this as me disagreeing, I agree. BTS paved (Or is paving) the way to america
 

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