Rumor Sooo there is not full choro for Lil touch, Yuri says 20th is a lock. (1 Viewer)

[RandAlThor]

so just 3 more years... sigh.

 

[RandAlThor]

@Sone

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

so just 3 more years... sigh.

Oh!gg comeback seems more unlikely the more time goes on long past 2018.

Does it seem likely Sunny (Lee Soonkyu) will be active in 2027 to join in OT8 SNSD activities? I just thought of another OT8 possibility but I don't want to jinx it 3 years before it's time LOL.

 

[RandAlThor]

Oh!gg comeback seems more unlikely the more time goes on long past 2018.

Does it seem likely Sunny (Lee Soonkyu) will be active in 2027 to join in OT8 SNSD activities? I just thought of another OT8 possibility but I don't want to jinx it 3 years before it's time LOL.

The regime change at SM seems to have been the last straw.

Weird cuz i really thought Sunny would get into management and team building.
But she seems happy to just chill now.

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

The regime change at SM seems to have been the last straw.

Weird cuz i really thought Sunny would get into management and team building.
But she seems happy to just chill now.

Well, her dad was a manager not in SM but in another agency that she joined in between her 2 stints in SM. idk if her knowledge/experience of her dad+uncle's time in Starworld/SM makes her want less to just work in music management.

For awhile before her leaving SM, I rmbr it seemed she would be a variety person but rn idk wat she has planned, I think no one knows-maybe not even Soonkyu!

She been in this life sincei think 1998(9yrs old, ig international age) even longer than Sica I think.
SM idols post bg/gg life seems like there's not much preparedness by SM itself; mostly I only know of music/variety/acting and academia/other pursuits seem scant(Gdragon or TOP in Big Bang/YGE seem better prepared for post bg/idol life, tho CL/Minzy/Bom idek wat they are up to nowadays) Luna seems out of the public awareness rn too!

Best to Sunny(n others too)

 

[centen]

SM idols post bg/gg life seems like there's not much preparedness by SM itself; mostly I only know of music/variety/acting and academia/other pursuits seem scant(Gdragon or TOP in Big Bang/YGE seem better prepared for post bg/idol life, tho CL/Minzy/Bom idek wat they are up to nowadays) Luna seems out of the public awareness rn too!

Yeah, in general, I don't think companies seem to care much about their artists' long-term career, especially if it was potentially outside of their company. Maybe part of that was the fact that, for a long time, idols realistically only really had the 5-10 years and then the public moved on. Maybe the industry is slow to adapt. It does seem kind of weird that Sunny wasn't set up better for something but it's hard to know how interested she is in anything else.

 

[centen]

+ theres really just no full choreo for lil touch what was shown in the mv is all there is

lol, that does seem like the half-ass nonsense SME would do for their "don't worry, SNSD is still totes top priority!!!" thing they were doing after Sooyoung, Seohyun, and Tiffany left. Wild to me that they still broke top ten with zero promotions with this song, and SME couldn't be bothered to do anything else with the subunit for the six years they had all the members.

 

[RandAlThor]

Yeah, in general, I don't think companies seem to care much about their artists' long-term career, especially if it was potentially outside of their company. Maybe part of that was the fact that, for a long time, idols realistically only really had the 5-10 years and then the public moved on. Maybe the industry is slow to adapt. It does seem kind of weird that Sunny wasn't set up better for something but it's hard to know how interested she is in anything else.

I have always thought SM did a far better job preparing them for a career post group than any other agency. Jyp particularly sucks.
Except song writing like say a GD. GD and top were a bb duo and ofc he got alot of credit for songs.

Getting a song thru SM A&R team since company artists/and maybe everyone work is submitted nameless.

SM artists got solo work some before debut. like Yoona. And they were always willing to sent 2-4 ppl on a show.
Did they mess up? Sure Seohyun's missed opportunities are a great example.

How many SM artists were on WGM, star golden bell Star king and all the other shows especially 2nd gen and early 3rd gen.
Heck JYJ left and were still very successful solo.

The issue is fans want BP style solo success for all the artists and that is never going to happen. For what ever reason they fill a particular ich for many.

So you get 1 Taeyeon (Jessica and Jessica /Krystal would have been big but that is another story)
1 Taemin ect.

Luna for example has a career in musical theater, Amber could have lived in variety in Korea but she wanted something else..

 

[centen]

I have always thought SM did a far better job preparing them for a career post group than any other agency. Jyp particularly sucks.
Except song writing like say a GD. GD and top were a bb duo and ofc he got alot of credit for songs.

Getting a song thru SM A&R team since company artists/and maybe everyone work is submitted nameless.

SM artists got solo work some before debut. like Yoona. And they were always willing to sent 2-4 ppl on a show.
Did they mess up? Sure Seohyun's missed opportunities are a great example.

How many SM artists were on WGM, star golden bell Star king and all the other shows especially 2nd gen and early 3rd gen.
Heck JYJ left and were still very successful solo.

The issue is fans want BP style solo success for all the artists and that is never going to happen. For what ever reason they fill a particular ich for many.

So you get 1 Taeyeon (Jessica and Jessica /Krystal would have been big but that is another story)
1 Taemin ect.

Luna for example has a career in musical theater, Amber could have lived in variety in Korea but she wanted something else..

I think I generally agree. I think GD is kind of an exception, because GD was going to be successful no matter what. Like his success wasn't dependent on YGE making him nice music, and he wasn't dungeoned when they got bored with him. I think if he had wanted to release another album in between his last one 2017 and now, YGE would have made that happen for him. Compare that with Minzy who talked a lot about wanting to go solo, but she had to leave the company to make that happen.

I also agree with you about BP success not being replicable in general. With smaller groups, you sometimes see the company give one of the members a solo, and it can't be supported because the fanbase for the group isn't large enough as it is to segment it out for a single idol's support. And we see that with Minzy again too... No matter how loud her fans were about wanting her to have a solo, they didn't actually show up for it. (And a lot of other examples I'm sure you and I can both think of. Being loud online doesn't necessarily translate to actual support.)

I think BP's been lucky in that they have a LOT of solo stans and not enough comebacks (before now) to poach from each other. I do kind of wonder how it'll go with all the girls going their own way solo-wise, if it'll impact sales. I mean, there's generally a reason that companies don't release solos from the same group at the same time... but again, BP is an exception in having so many akgaes. I think especially with the big groups, like where you see people asking who is next in TWICE to get a solo and people wanting their faves from NCTs to all get solos... realistically, they're not all going to pull Taeyeon numbers. Not even most of them.

So I don't fault SME (or any company really) for not caring that much about the long-term solo career for all of their idols when just having a solid group fanbase is likely going to carry all of them much farther than they'd get on their own.

 

[pinkmelodies]

I always wondered why they never gotten a world tour. Is it because SM thought they wouldn't profit from it? Also sad that they didn't get proper choreo for Lil' Touch

I am definitely hoping for that 20 year anniversary comeback!

 

[LoveYooShaSha]

Yeah, in general, I don't think companies seem to care much about their artists' long-term career, especially if it was potentially outside of their company. Maybe part of that was the fact that, for a long time, idols realistically only really had the 5-10 years and then the public moved on. Maybe the industry is slow to adapt. It does seem kind of weird that Sunny wasn't set up better for something but it's hard to know how interested she is in anything else.

Lee Hyori is the prime example of being the exception, I think. She made it happen for herself too, for the most part(I believe).

Sunny I hv no idea wat she was thinking from 2018/2019 till 2022/just after 2023 post-SNSD Forever1 promo period. She literally surprised a lot of ppl going low Key since then until now. Maybe she'll surprise us again between now n 2027 n actually join 20th Anniv. I nvr expected KARA, Lovelyz or 2ne1 to hv reunion(me being uninformed/unknowing abt most of their career).

 

[OnlyCalB]

Hopefully the 20th anniversary is great!