News ok Eunbi i do not understand RBW didn't Chaeyeon just leave? (1 Viewer)

[RandAlThor]

Water Bomb Goddess" #Eunbi Signs Exclusive Contract with RBW RBW: "We are delighted to partner with the musical journey of solo artist Kwon Eunbi, who has proven her one-of-a-kind presence on stage based on her outstanding vocal and performance skills, and to walk alongside her in the steps ahead."

 

[RandAlThor]

@Rubi

 

[kimsguardian]

chaeyeon wasn't in wm ent. before??
i really hope it's still a rumor, they haven't confirmed yet so she can still change her mind

 

[RandAlThor]

chaeyeon wasn't in wm ent. before??
i really hope it's still a rumor, they haven't confirmed yet so she can still change her mind

but i thought RBW bought WM

 

[RandAlThor]

chaeyeon wasn't in wm ent. before??
i really hope it's still a rumor, they haven't confirmed yet so she can still change her mind

yep according to ai

Rainbow Bridge World (RBW) is a South Korean entertainment company founded by Kim Jin-woo and Kim Do-hoon, known as the home to artists such as MAMAMOO, ONEUS, ONEWE, and PURPLE KISS. Through subsidiaries like WM Entertainment, DSP Media, and RBW Vietnam, it manages various K-pop groups and producers.
Bridge.audio +3
Key Artists and Groups Under RBW (and its subsidiaries):

• MAMAMOO: Solar and Moon Byul (active), Whee In and Hwa Sa (left agency, but part of group).
• ONEUS: (Boy group).
• ONEWE: (Band).
• PURPLE KISS: (Girl group).
• Other/Subsidiaries: VROMANCE, D1Verse (RBW Vietnam), Oh My Girl (WM Ent), KARD (DSP Media), KARA (DSP Media).
  Wikipedia +5

Key Personnel:

• Founders: Kim Jin-woo, Kim Do-hoon.
• Producers: Lee Sang Ho, Seo Yong Bae, Park Woo Sang.
  PR Newswire Asia +1

RBW was founded in 2010 as Rainbowbridge Agency, later merging with WA Entertainment in 2015 to become RBW.
RBW +1

 

[kimsguardian]

yep according to ai

Rainbow Bridge World (RBW) is a South Korean entertainment company founded by Kim Jin-woo and Kim Do-hoon, known as the home to artists such as MAMAMOO, ONEUS, ONEWE, and PURPLE KISS. Through subsidiaries like WM Entertainment, DSP Media, and RBW Vietnam, it manages various K-pop groups and producers.
Bridge.audio +3
Key Artists and Groups Under RBW (and its subsidiaries):

• MAMAMOO: Solar and Moon Byul (active), Whee In and Hwa Sa (left agency, but part of group).
• ONEUS: (Boy group).
• ONEWE: (Band).
• PURPLE KISS: (Girl group).
• Other/Subsidiaries: VROMANCE, D1Verse (RBW Vietnam), Oh My Girl (WM Ent), KARD (DSP Media), KARA (DSP Media).
  Wikipedia +5

Key Personnel:

• Founders: Kim Jin-woo, Kim Do-hoon.
• Producers: Lee Sang Ho, Seo Yong Bae, Park Woo Sang.
  PR Newswire Asia +1

RBW was founded in 2010 as Rainbowbridge Agency, later merging with WA Entertainment in 2015 to become RBW.
RBW +1

this is helpful, thanks for the info

 

[Abeamus]

but i thought RBW bought WM

RBW did and also canned WMs CEO within the last year or so I believe so WM is probably dead as a company outside of Oh My Girl so I'm not sure about Eunbi signing there

 

[centen]

RBW did and also canned WMs CEO within the last year or so I believe so WM is probably dead as a company outside of Oh My Girl so I'm not sure about Eunbi signing there

WM also has XLOV.

Then in their subsidiaries, DSP has KARD and Young Posse, but BM basically said that they're leaving when their contract expires in December. And in RBW, that just leaves 2/4 of Mamamoo and technically the group promotions for Mamamoo as a whole, Onewe, and technically Purple Kiss, but they're officially disbanded and they've done nothing solo-wise with the girls (although, to be frank, none of them have enough individual popularity to carry solo promos either).

And recent departures are: Oneus, B1A4, Chaeyeon, ONF, Uspeer, YooA and Arin of OMG.

Really makes you wonder what the hell RBW offered her.

 

[centen]

yep according to ai

Rainbow Bridge World (RBW) is a South Korean entertainment company founded by Kim Jin-woo and Kim Do-hoon, known as the home to artists such as MAMAMOO, ONEUS, ONEWE, and PURPLE KISS. Through subsidiaries like WM Entertainment, DSP Media, and RBW Vietnam, it manages various K-pop groups and producers.
Bridge.audio +3
Key Artists and Groups Under RBW (and its subsidiaries):

• MAMAMOO: Solar and Moon Byul (active), Whee In and Hwa Sa (left agency, but part of group).
• ONEUS: (Boy group).
• ONEWE: (Band).
• PURPLE KISS: (Girl group).
• Other/Subsidiaries: VROMANCE, D1Verse (RBW Vietnam), Oh My Girl (WM Ent), KARD (DSP Media), KARA (DSP Media).
  Wikipedia +5

Key Personnel:

• Founders: Kim Jin-woo, Kim Do-hoon.
• Producers: Lee Sang Ho, Seo Yong Bae, Park Woo Sang.
  PR Newswire Asia +1

RBW was founded in 2010 as Rainbowbridge Agency, later merging with WA Entertainment in 2015 to become RBW.
RBW +1

ONEUS left; Purple Kiss, D1Verse, and Vromance disbanded; KARD is planning to leave after December; KARA is a legacy act.

AI making RBW look way better than they currently are.

 

[Selfmate]

maybe chaeyeon wasn't as profitable
maybe chaeyeon couldn't negotiate a better deal
maybe RBW offered Eunbi a better deal

who knows

 

[Abeamus]

WM also has XLOV.

Then in their subsidiaries, DSP has KARD and Young Posse, but BM basically said that they're leaving when their contract expires in December. And in RBW, that just leaves 2/4 of Mamamoo and technically the group promotions for Mamamoo as a whole, Onewe, and technically Purple Kiss, but they're officially disbanded and they've done nothing solo-wise with the girls (although, to be frank, none of them have enough individual popularity to carry solo promos either).

And recent departures are: Oneus, B1A4, Chaeyeon, ONF, Uspeer, YooA and Arin of OMG.

Really makes you wonder what the hell RBW offered her.

To be fair I'm always hesitant to add non commercial selling groups to topics like this since sure they have the groups but how long are they going to back them? It's obvious RBW is likely to keep backing ones like the remaining Mamamoo and Oh My Girl members but Purple Kiss only lasted 5 years which given that they are still under RBW seems like they just said it's not worth investing any more into them and cut their activities early.

I'm sure they probably offered her a good deal hoping she'll turn out different to Chaeyeon but this just seems like Eunbi went out and boarded the titanic as it was sinking

 

[centen]

To be fair I'm always hesitant to add non commercial selling groups to topics like this since sure they have the groups but how long are they going to back them? It's obvious RBW is likely to keep backing ones like the remaining Mamamoo and Oh My Girl members but Purple Kiss only lasted 5 years which given that they are still under RBW seems like they just said it's not worth investing any more into them and cut their activities early.

I'm sure they probably offered her a good deal hoping she'll turn out different to Chaeyeon but this just seems like Eunbi went out and boarded the titanic as it was sinking

100%. It feels weird listing Purple Kiss as even a technicality, given RBW has given zero indication that they plan to do anything other than wait until their contracts expire. Maybe they'll get lucky and PK will get randomly viral and give them a reason to be worth promoting again, but that's some dumb luck wishing there.

TBH, I feel weird even including Mamamoo as a technicality too, because it's not like Hwasa and Wheein are sitting around in their current agencies, waiting for RBW to be willing to do full group promotions again, so there's a lot of working around their schedules RBW has to do to really be able to use that asset. Hwasa's solo popularity is still ridiculous (even if I'm forever annoyed at PNation not giving her enough albums). But at least they have some committed touring they're doing this summer.

 

[RandAlThor]

100%. It feels weird listing Purple Kiss as even a technicality, given RBW has given zero indication that they plan to do anything other than wait until their contracts expire. Maybe they'll get lucky and PK will get randomly viral and give them a reason to be worth promoting again, but that's some dumb luck wishing there.

TBH, I feel weird even including Mamamoo as a technicality too, because it's not like Hwasa and Wheein are sitting around in their current agencies, waiting for RBW to be willing to do full group promotions again, so there's a lot of working around their schedules RBW has to do to really be able to use that asset. Hwasa's solo popularity is still ridiculous (even if I'm forever annoyed at PNation not giving her enough albums). But at least they have some committed touring they're doing this summer.

I think all this highlights is just what a freeking outlier any non super agency success is.
Sustained success eludes all but a handful of agencies. SM, HYBE, JYP, YG.
Starship even has not made the jump. if Ive lasts 10 15 years then maybe. is monstaX still active? WJSN is in that limbo world.
Pledis or Cube could never get over the 7 year deal ( really 5) except for a bg or 2 17 but hybe is getting that credit and botb i guess.
DSP the founder dying wrecked it.
ect

 

[centen]

I think all this highlights is just what a freeking outlier any non super agency success is.
Sustained success eludes all but a handful of agencies. SM, HYBE, JYP, YG.
Starship even has not made the jump. if Ive lasts 10 15 years then maybe. is monstaX still active? WJSN is in that limbo world.
Pledis or Cube could never get over the 7 year deal ( really 5) except for a bg or 2 17 but hybe is getting that credit and botb i guess.
DSP the founder dying wrecked it.
ect

Spot on, and really, in a way, it seems pretty self-perpetuating. Like fans follow groups from those companies for no reason other than they're from those companies. It's kind of insane the debut album sales numbers their groups can do, even if the actual song doesn't end up necessarily received all that well. And even companies with VERY popular groups (e.g. Starship, Cube) have never managed to get that kind of ... shine to rub off on their other groups. People follow i-dle, not Cube, and certainly not Lightsum. It's interesting to see that sometimes that shine has happened (BTS onto the rest of HYBE, making HYBE into a big four company) and sometimes it stops happening (as you said, DSP).

 

[RandAlThor]

Spot on, and really, in a way, it seems pretty self-perpetuating. Like fans follow groups from those companies for no reason other than they're from those companies. It's kind of insane the debut album sales numbers their groups can do, even if the actual song doesn't end up necessarily received all that well. And even companies with VERY popular groups (e.g. Starship, Cube) have never managed to get that kind of ... shine to rub off on their other groups. People follow i-dle, not Cube, and certainly not Lightsum. It's interesting to see that sometimes that shine has happened (BTS onto the rest of HYBE, making HYBE into a big four company) and sometimes it stops happening (as you said, DSP).

if Produce helped any agency get Shine as you put it Starship seems to have gleaned that. even with scandal.
they do have a pretty big stable now. and Kiil kiil seems to have done well.

 

[centen]

if Produce helped any agency get Shine as you put it Starship seems to have gleaned that. even with scandal.
they do have a pretty big stable now. and Kiil kiil seems to have done well.

Yes, I'll be curious to see if they manage to keep it going. I know they just had Idid debut last year, and Monsta X has had an impressively stable fandom considering how long they've been active for. But as you've said, a couple of monster groups does not a monster agency make.

To bring this back to Eunbi: I did see some rumors on reddit that said the reason her potential deal with Galaxy fell through is that she didn't have a whole team to bring with her. G-Dragon and Taemin brought their teams along, and just need the financial support/connections to do all the bit work, but not the actual creative direction. So Eunbi needs an agency that can provide it all. That seems plausible to me, when you look at the credits on each of the artists' last albums.

 

[RandAlThor]

Yes, I'll be curious to see if they manage to keep it going. I know they just had Idid debut last year, and Monsta X has had an impressively stable fandom considering how long they've been active for. But as you've said, a couple of monster groups does not a monster agency make.

To bring this back to Eunbi: I did see some rumors on reddit that said the reason her potential deal with Galaxy fell through is that she didn't have a whole team to bring with her. G-Dragon and Taemin brought their teams along, and just need the financial support/connections to do all the bit work, but not the actual creative direction. So Eunbi needs an agency that can provide it all. That seems plausible to me, when you look at the credits on each of the artists' last albums.

She does do some, and works with PsychoRabbit but i can see that. and with as many festivals as MMM has done they seem to have good connections there.