If TWICE released Umpha Umpha - what would the reception be? (2 Viewers)

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Putting aside that long and unnecessary tangent about Twice :kijoongstare:
I don't think you understand what we mean by childish

Cute≠childish
Pop≠childish
Nonsensical lyrics with basic, gibberish choruses overusing aegyo that sound like reject Disney OSTs=childish
Something Red Velvet is guilty of almost as much as Twice

Twinkle Twinkle: childish Darling: definitely not
TT: kinda childish LOA: Not
My Super Lookie Lookie Rookie, Go Go Airplane Ba Na Na Ba Ba Ba nananan, zimzimzalbim,& Umpah Umpah: All can be considered within the realm of childishness as opposed to ICC, RR or DD
Whether they pull off or not is up to you, Twice bashing isn't going change that
Because ppl can't criticize red velvet because red velvet already show so much different faces that ppl now that they are just trying a new concept
Plus it's a summer song ppl expect childhish, fresh, simple song in summer that's why ppl are not criticize for this type of song if they released it in the summer
Girl's day also have this "childish cute" song with darling but ppl don't care because it's what people want in summer something cute, fresh, simple

While in contrary twice is stick to this image the entire year and not just during summer
And even if they release break something they are still consider as a one dimension gg

And uu was not more childish than what twice used us to hear for the past 3 years with likey, signal, etc...
And twice didn't win their childish image because of one song but because of 3 year of cute song
Rv are not releasing the same cute stuff for the 3 past years

Because yes it's not one song who will change your image
And even with them "experiencing" more mature concept it was still very childish musically with always this poppy instru, high pitch vocal who is suppose to be cute etc....
They only wear black and call it a more mature concept
I can get Sones having their fair share of issues with Twice and Onces, not gonna deny that I had quite a few myself but their concepts should definitely not be one.
That's a direct slap in the face of Soshi who, by your logic, would be considered 1 dimensional. When SNSD was at the same point that Twice was in their career, they were still releasing music even cuter and girlier than Twice and continued to do so throughout their career. Bubblegum pop was still their signature sound in Korea until 8 years in when they graduated to color pop, aka what Twice is doing now
Twice is experimenting and gradually changing their sound. They will be just fine
 

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At the end of the day, for me, both groups have been releasing horrendous music throughout the year. My standards for both of them has severely dropped. Fancy was an auto tune mess. ZBB doesn't deserve to be called music. Happy Happy, Breakthrough and Umpah Umpah embody the word mediocre.

^Would like to reiterate that this all my opinion

To answer the OP's question, if TWICE did release Umpah Umpah, they would probably top Melon in contrary to RV who plummeted down the charts.
 
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Putting aside that long and unnecessary tangent about Twice :kijoongstare:
I don't think you understand what we mean by childish

Cute≠childish
Pop≠childish
Nonsensical lyrics with basic, gibberish choruses overusing aegyo that sound like reject Disney OSTs=childish
Something Red Velvet is guilty of almost as much as Twice

Twinkle Twinkle: childish Darling: definitely not
TT: kinda childish LOA: Not
My Super Lookie Lookie Rookie, Go Go Airplane Ba Na Na Ba Ba Ba nananan, zimzimzalbim,& Umpah Umpah: All can be considered within the realm of childishness as opposed to ICC, RR or DD
Whether they pull off or not is up to you, Twice bashing isn't going change that

I can get Sones having their fair share of issues with Twice and Onces, not gonna deny that I had quite a few myself but their concepts should definitely not be one.
That's a direct slap in the face of Soshi who, by your logic, would be considered 1 dimensional. When SNSD was at the same point that Twice was in their career, they were still releasing music even cuter and girlier than Twice and continued to do so throughout their career. Bubblegum pop was still their signature sound in Korea until 8 years in when they graduated to color pop, aka what Twice is doing now
Twice is experimenting and gradually changing their sound. They will be just fine
Bubblegum pop?
In which world ppl consider run devil run, chocolate love, genie, hoot as bubblegum pop - _-

In 3 years snsd had already showed a great amount of diversity in comparison of what twice did in 3 years

And i never said that snsd was not a one dimension gg during their cute era until genie
 
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At the end of the day, for me, both groups have been releasing horrendous music throughout the year. My standards for both of them has severely dropped. Fancy was an auto tune mess. ZBB doesn't deserve to be called music. Happy Happy, Breakthrough and Umpah Umpah embody the word mediocre.
Well damn
 
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I can get Sones having their fair share of issues with Twice and Onces, not gonna deny that I had quite a few myself but their concepts should definitely not be one.
That's a direct slap in the face of Soshi who, by your logic, would be considered 1 dimensional. When SNSD was at the same point that Twice was in their career, they were still releasing music even cuter and girlier than Twice and continued to do so throughout their career. Bubblegum pop was still their signature sound in Korea until 8 years in when they graduated to color pop, aka what Twice is doing now
Twice is experimenting and gradually changing their sound. They will be just fine
I would strongly disagree with all of this ITNW, genie, rdr The boys and IGAB are no where near bubble gum. By the end of 2009 and especially 2010 in japan they only dabbled in bubble gum.
Twice is entering their 5th year thats the boys mr taxi paparazzi all the ballad videos from the first J album.
 
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Bubblegum pop?
In which world ppl consider run devil run, chocolate love, genie, hoot as bubblegum pop - _-

In 3 years snsd had already showed a great amount of diversity in comparison of what twice did in 3 years

And i never said that snsd was not a one dimension gg during their cute era until genie
All of those songs you named are still pop. Hoot, CL and Genie are still cute concepts.

As far as RDR, the MV is a lot darker than the actual song. Compare it to actual girl crush songs from that era like 2ne1 and T-ara and there's a lot to be desired.

Genie was a slight change. Just like Signal and Fancy
RDR was a step in the right direction. Just like breakthrough
 
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Putting aside that long and unnecessary tangent about Twice :kijoongstare:
I don't think you understand what we mean by childish

Cute≠childish
Pop≠childish
Nonsensical lyrics with basic, gibberish choruses overusing aegyo that sound like reject Disney OSTs=childish
Something Red Velvet is guilty of almost as much as Twice

Twinkle Twinkle: childish Darling: definitely not
TT: kinda childish LOA: Not
My Super Lookie Lookie Rookie, Go Go Airplane Ba Na Na Ba Ba Ba nananan, zimzimzalbim,& Umpah Umpah: All can be considered within the realm of childishness as opposed to ICC, RR or DD
Whether they pull off or not is up to you, Twice bashing isn't going change that

I can get Sones having their fair share of issues with Twice and Onces, not gonna deny that I had quite a few myself but their concepts should definitely not be one.
That's a direct slap in the face of Soshi who, by your logic, would be considered 1 dimensional. When SNSD was at the same point that Twice was in their career, they were still releasing music even cuter and girlier than Twice and continued to do so throughout their career. Bubblegum pop was still their signature sound in Korea until 8 years in when they graduated to color pop, aka what Twice is doing now
Twice is experimenting and gradually changing their sound. They will be just fine
Nah Fancy is pretty much still Bubblegum Pop. TWICE hasn't really changed anything. However, I will anticipate their new release this September, which they say will be something actually different. The composition and arrangement of Fancy is not that different to their past songs. All they did was get a darker wardrobe and called it a "mature concept". Maturity is Oh! to Run Devil Run. Aesthetically mature but also sonically. They key of RDR is lower than Oh! so SNSD did not have to sing in high pitched voices anymore. The same can be said about Hoot, which was released in that year.

Look, if ONCES continue to love TWICE's music just the way it is, that's perfect. In the end, idol groups have to cater to their audience. GFriend have made the 4 different versions of Rough. TFTMN, Memoria and Sunrise. But, I LOVE all of them, individually. I even go as far as to say each of them are some of my favorite Kpop songs ever. However, it would be shameless of me to say GF's music has matured or evolved because it hasn't and that's just fact. We can say they're experimenting now and evolving with the release of Fever. The same goes for TWICE, September could be a turning point in their music, we'll have to see. But, for now, nothing's changed.
 
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All of those songs you named are still pop. Hoot, CL and Genie are still cute concepts.

As far as RDR, the MV is a lot darker than the actual song. Compare it to actual girl crush songs from that era like 2ne1 and T-ara and there's a lot to be desired.

Genie was a slight change. Just like Signal and Fancy
RDR was a step in the right direction. Just like breakthrough
I'm sorry but this is the most nonsense I've seen spewed out. Gee and Genie were world's apart. Signal and Likey weren't. Also, I can see why you'd call Hoot a cute concept in certain areas of the song but overall? Can you really call it a cute concept?

What was T-ara's "girl crush" concept in 2010? Are you talking about You Drive Me Crazy? Because RDR and You Drive Me Crazy aren't world's apart either. 2NE1's a different story, I agree.
 

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I'm sorry but this is the most nonsense I've seen spewed out. Gee and Genie were world's apart. Signal and Likey weren't. Also, I can see why you'd call Hoot a cute concept in certain areas of the song but overall? Can you really call it a cute concept?

What was T-ara's "girl crush" concept in 2010? Are you talking about You Drive Me Crazy? Because RDR and You Drive Me Crazy aren't world's apart either. 2NE1's a different story, I agree.
I did not mean for this to be a whole thing :nekosweat:
I'd definitely say Hoot is a cute concept and would consider YDMC a lot more GC than RDR. Even TTL from 2009.

As far as Genie and Gee. Yes, there's is definitely a difference in sound but there is still an element of cuteness to and wasn't that great a change image wise.

Title tracks aside, Soshi really didn't start to fully expore different sounds in their albums until the Boys and GG. With the exception of Wake Up and maybe Beginning, most of their songs are girly ballads or light-hearted pop songs. Which I'd definitely say were a lot cuter what Twice does

They played around a bit but I think it's exaggerated to beat down Twice.
 
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I did not mean for this to be a whole thing :nekosweat:
I'd definitely say Hoot is a cute concept and would consider YDMC a lot more GC than RDR. Even TTL from 2009.

As far as Genie and Gee. Yes, there's is definitely a difference in sound but there is still an element of cuteness to and wasn't that great a change image wise.

Title tracks aside, Soshi really didn't start to fully expore different sounds in their albums until the Boys and GG. With the exception of Wake Up and maybe Beginning, most of their songs are girly ballads or light-hearted pop songs. Which I'd definitely say were a lot cuter what Twice does

They played around a bit but I think it's exaggerated to beat down Twice.
Well anyway, the Jessica aesthetic was superior :rjeat:
 

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Well anyway, the Jessica aesthetic was superior :rjeat:
Any Jessica aesthetic is superior
But I needed to build something around the Twice badge :llama_ramen:
 
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