can a person be hopeless? (1 Viewer)

[kodoku]

meaning that no matter what is done, what they or others try, and no matter how much time passes.....they will not change or get better? or do you think that every human, given proper help and resources, can change for the better? that there's no such thing as "someone who shouldn't exist"? sorry if this is confusing or too vague, but I'm just curious.......

Spoiler: me

I always believed in people too much, forgave too easily, and gave too many chances.... even though I thought that was something beautiful, people just thought of me as a fool and they were probably right

 

[jasque]

Uh I think change is always possible.

Still it'd be difficult to make something for say Sadam Hussein (just to avoid Godwin's law)

Even if beliefs can be changed, how to do it when the person is not willing to

That leads to unavoidable conflicts.

 

[yeji]

I think there are hopeless individuals. I wouldn’t expect someone like Charles Manson to change one bit.

 

[Willow]

I feel concerned 😱

 

[Jimimis]

Duh have you SEEN a gg stan?

 

[melancholia]

yes, change can always come but that is if you want it to. so yes, a person can be hopeless

 

[raymondchouku]

Its possible, maybe not probable... The issue, I see, with using examples of Bin Ladin, Baghdadi, Charles Manson, Lenin, Hitler, and so on, is that they all exhibited the utmost pride... and prideful people, to that degree, tend to be so arrogant and are never to see beyond their own view of what is right. And the average person isn't like the aforementioned historical villains. To offer an everyday contextual example here: I have people in my life who struggle from addiction--One has been addicted to alcohol for almost 30 years; the other drugs for over 10 years. I don't see a come to Jesus moment for them anytime soon, but I do think there is always the possibility for them to change; having said that, certain people, while having the possibility, don't change not because they are unable, but because they are unwilling.

I think there are hopeless individuals. I wouldn’t expect someone like Charles Manson to change one bit.

True. It probably wouldn't matter if he changed though. People are still dead. edit: I probably shouldn't mention it since its 18+, but there are things that he did before that, which cemented him as scum at around the age of 18.

 

[blueberries]

I'm not sure if any person is hopeless, but you cannot change people outside if they aren't willing it has to come from inside and it has to be genuine, and that can be bit hard.

 

[Deleted member 74]

I used to think people could always change, no matter what, but I was wrong. There really are so many people in this world who can't or won't change. Whether it's being a bad person, a certain mindset/view or even mental state. Someone who shouldn't or wasn't meant to exist, won't get truly better, I think of myself that way and honestly I've proven this to myself and others over the last two years. I really did. Most people who shouldn't have ever existed are the ones least likely to see themselves that way. As for given proper help and resources, sometimes it's just not enough to reach deeper things in a person.
There's a lot to say on a topic like this. I think all humans are hopeless individually in at least one aspect of their lives, some more than others.

They weren't right, you're not a fool for being like that. Having hope in people and forgiveness is beautiful and takes strength.

 

[Mew]

Yes, although rare... They're are a few people that can be extremely hopeless. But more so often people can fall into that pit of hopeless but not stay there... From what I've seen there usual a little hope it just need to be tapped into to. However those who are completely hopeless it's another story entirely...

 

[dark_tranquility]

I always fall into my old habits and still remain two faced.
It's a bad trait to have, but I feel like it gets me out of sticky situations a lot of the time.
Especially with how dodge people in the world are.

Like I don't think I am ever gonna change from being two sides of the one coin.
I kind of like it too much.

I am hopelessly manipulative and even though I care for people, a lot of me doesn't.