A rant of sorts about plastic surgery and other procedures (1 Viewer)

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I've had this on my mind for a while after watching the clip of Jessi when she openly talks about her breast surgery, now i've just come back from watching a video about Madison Beer and the hate she's been getting for denying plastic surgery rumors and a lot of other celebrities and influencers get accused daily of plastic surgery and beauty procedures, and they all get hate and called liars when they deny it.

Obviously I don't think people should lie BUT when it comes to celebs and influencers with plastic surgery I think it's fine for them to deny any procedures they might've had if people keep trying to expose them, I see that as protecting their privacy, not lying. Regardless of how 'obvious' it is, beauty procedures are still private. If you went to ask their doctors if they got anything done, the doctor wouldn't legally be allowed to say anything without the consent of the celebrity/influencer because that's private information. If an influencer wants to be open about it then that's up to them, if they want to keep it private then that's also up to them. In a lot of exposés about plastic surgery and procedures I see people saying 'there's nothing wrong with plastic surgery so you shouldn't be ashamed and lie about it!' but like if you really don't see anything wrong with ps and procedures then why would you try so hard to expose someone for it? If it wasn't a problem to you then you wouldn't be making a huge deal out of it and harassing these people about their bodies and appearance online because they want to keep something that they have every right to keep private, PRIVATE. It's clear there is still a heavy stigma surrounding plastic surgery and while people being open about surgeries might help disperse that a little, I don't see the issue with someone choosing not to take the heat, it's a personal choice, not a duty.

Another reason people try to expose influencer's plastic surgery is because they're worried that kids and teens are going to start believing in an unrealistic beauty standard if influencers aren't 100% open about their procedures, I think it's fine to be concerned about that, but outing people for getting surgery isn't going to fix that issue. I think it's the media's fault that beauty standards are getting unrealistic by heavily editing photos and only showing women with a certain body type and showing no representation for any other shapes, sizes, and skin tones. One girl getting surgery isn't causing the problem, in fact a lot of them might even be the victims of the problem themselves. People need to focus their attention on the real issue and not bully a single person for doing something for themselves or maybe even conforming to what they believe is the ideal standard of beauty because they felt pressured by the media too.

And onto Jessi, in the clip I watched, there was some discussion in the comments about her surgeries, people expressing their opinions on what they thought of the surgery, saying she went too big etc, as well as people hyping her up for speaking openly about it while going on to discuss her boobs as if they weren't someone elses... I'm very well aware that even without Jessi being open about it there would be people discussing it, but it felt a little bit like people felt as if they got an invitation to talk about it when Jessi spoke about. It's all well and good Jessi being open about her surgeries but that still doesn't serve as an invitation to others to discuss her body. Of course people have every right to speak discuss something that's public knowledge now but they don't seem to realise that it still doesn't mean the person in question will feel comfortable about them speaking about her like she's an object.


This is just a little something I wanted to write down somewhere. Whenever I see people talking about plastic surgery I always feel wildly uncomfortable and i've never really been able to pinpoint exactly why I felt that way because I personally didn't have any issue with surgery and procedures, but I still felt wrong openly accusing people of it if they haven't said anything about it themselves, or even talking about those who have been open about it, and i've recently been able to arrange my thoughts about how exactly I felt about it so I thought i'd post this.

I'm gonna tag some of my gorlies since we sometimes talk about beauty and fashion quite often so I thought sum of y'all might be interested~ but of course anyone can comment still :sanapray:
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what a queen :sanapray:
haven't finished reading the whole thing but
"I think it's fine for them to deny any procedures they might've had if people keep trying to expose them" PURE FACTS :sj_weary:
 

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The thing with Madison Beer is that she did say people should be happy with their body and shouldn't deny ps if they had done it
but then she did it and denies it.
Especially a lot of people who are hated on for denying ps are those saying "love yourself and how you look"
many people see it as hypocritical
 

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The thing with Madison Beer is that she did say people should be happy with their body and shouldn't deny ps if they had done it
but then she did it and denies it.
Especially a lot of people who are hated on for denying ps are those saying "love yourself and how you look"
many people see it as hypocritical
I understand people being upset at her for not practicing what she's preaching and I think it's fine for people to criticize her but at the same time I still feel like it isn't just about that? Like people have been hating on her body and trying to expose her regardless of what she preached and a lot of them are only using it as a scapegoat to justify their actions, with how aggressive and hateful some of the criticisms on her are I do not doubt that she'd be getting a similar amount of hate even if she hadn't preached such a thing u know? The people who are actually concerned with the real problem of Madison being hypocritical are the people who are being a lot less aggressive about exposing her and are being much more mature and respectful.
 

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I understand people being upset at her for not practicing what she's preaching and I think it's fine for people to criticize her but at the same time I still feel like it isn't just about that? Like people have been hating on her body and trying to expose her regardless of what she preached and are only using it as a scapegoat to justify their actions, but with how aggressive and hateful some of the criticisms on her are I do not doubt that she'd be getting a similar amount of hate even if she hadn't preached such a thing u know? The people who are actually concerned with the real problem of Madison being hypocritical are the people who are being a lot less aggressive about exposing her and are being much more mature and respectful.
I mean Madison is not the most loved person. Many people who use the ps thing don't like how she was "discovered" by JB but her mom is basically besties with his manager and she did not sing well (tho she has improved a lot recently)
Nevertheless, I always found her to be a pretty girl with or without ps
 

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I mean Madison is not the most loved person. Many people who use the ps thing don't like how she was "discovered" by JB but her mom is basically besties with his manager and she did not sing well (tho she has improved a lot recently)
Nevertheless, I always found her to be a pretty girl with or without ps
Yeah i'm not really a fan of her either but she is gorgeous, the whole thing about JB is weird lmao
 

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Honestly I don't have a problem with anyone getting cosmetic procedures. It's their body and they have the right to do what they want with it and they don't deserve to feel ashamed of it.

However, the only time I have a problem is when people lie and say that they're "all natural" when they're clearly not and they're trying to portray themselves as "perfect" in a sense. Another issue I have is when they get addicted? to it. Like they constantly feel like they need to keep changing something in order to look good, but they're still never satisfied with their appearance.

Hope this made some sense :nekosweat:
 

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Honestly I don't have a problem with anyone getting cosmetic procedures. It's their body and they have the right to do what they want with it and they don't deserve to feel ashamed of it.

However, the only time I have a problem is when people lie and say that they're "all natural" when they're clearly not and they're trying to portray themselves as "perfect" in a sense. Another issue I have is when they get addicted? to it. Like they constantly feel like they need to keep changing something in order to look good, but they're still never satisfied with their appearance.

Hope this made some sense :nekosweat:
It did make sense :nekolove:

I agree~
 

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what's weird about it tho
I just heard a lot of different things like apparently she said herself that JB discovered her on instagram but then others are saying JB didn't discover her at all etc, the story's just a bit mixed up and i'm confused but I also don't really care enough to go do more research into it either
 

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I love Jessi and her honesty. She is just such a cool woman who def deserves to be treated better.

On PS: I get why people deny. Some people use PS as a reason to hate so I do see it has a mechanism to protect themselves.

BTW WATCH MADISON ON CELEB DRAG RACE. GIRL IS JUST SO PRETTY AND WAS LIVING
 

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I love Jessi and her honesty. She is just such a cool woman who def deserves to be treated better.

On PS: I get why people deny. Some people use PS as a reason to hate so I do see it has a mechanism to protect themselves.

BTW WATCH MADISON ON CELEB DRAG RACE. GIRL IS JUST SO PRETTY AND WAS LIVING
If I ever watch a drag race i'll watch that one :maheart:

and AGREE AGREE AGREE 100%
 

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If I ever watch a drag race i'll watch that one :maheart:

and AGREE AGREE AGREE 100%
she was on the last ep ( Celeb Drag Race was just a 4 episode project.). It really was a fun watch and it was nice seeing the Queens and Celeb's interact.
 

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she was on the last ep ( Celeb Drag Race was just a 4 episode project.). It really was a fun watch and it was nice seeing the Queens and Celeb's interact.
I will take note of it :pepeheart:
 

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Plastic surgery is something people can never make their minds on as a topic since people always say when it comes up "who cares people can do whatever they want" and then when a celebrity gets plastic surgery it's the talk of the town so clearly people do care about it.

I am not for plastic surgery with the way most people try to use it which is as a "fix" for their insecurities since that just isn't the case and it shouldn't be seen as that althouh it does do good for peoplewho are seriously injured from acid, fire, etc.

That being my opinion though and I really don't care to talk about who got work done on whatever since if that's what they decided to do then that's their decision and talking about it is pretty rude as you're either saying they were ugly before their surgery or they are ugly now and considering if someone said someone was ugly they'd get destroyed I find it weird people deem it acceptable to talk about someones plastic surgery.
 

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Not touching on the Madison Beer thing (cuz I'm uncultured and don't know who tf that is) but I only have a problem when celebs are getting ps and promoting unhealthy practices and ideals while acting like they're natural. Mainly Cardi for promoting appetite suppressants to her fans while she was getting lipo and Nicki and the KKKlan for a long list of reasons

Everyone else is fine and can do whatever they want cuz they're gorg either way :llama_tea:
 

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Not touching on the Madison Beer thing (cuz I'm uncultured and don't know who tf that is) but I only have a problem when celebs are getting ps and promoting unhealthy practices and ideals while acting like they're natural. Mainly Cardi for promoting appetite suppressants to her fans while she was getting lipo and Nicki and the KKKlan for a long list of reasons

Everyone else is fine and can do whatever they want cuz they're gorg either way :llama_tea:
I dont think there's anything too dangerous with appetite suppressants or anything similar but it should only only be promoted by doctors and other medical professionals if they deem it safe for the individual and the same goes for anything that isn't a healthy balanced diet really
 

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Like, Jessi spoke about her getting plastic surgery, she didn't say "ya'll can talk about my boobs now." I get where you're coming from.
 

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I 100% agree with you ^^ I've never actually thought about it before. Plastic surgery has never bothered me but when you think about how celebs might feel about being outed, they must feel so unpleasant.
 
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