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u speak only the truth. 2nd gen was the shit.

krystal- acting, singing, modeling, dancing, and she's super athletic, sm's best visual. victoria- acting, singing, modeling, talent show judge, flexible af, dancing queen of china, her appearance in WGM carried fx during their debut days. amber- singing, dancing, rapping, producing...

she has too many haters. anything she does is a crime. blackpink- lisa

i’m trying to get into them. as a gg stan i’m really picky with what bgs to like and stray kids are pretty high on my list. their rappers are really some of the best in 3rd gen and like @Hyunjin mentioned, might even be better than bts. theyre really attractive and have great stage...

oh i see now. but i still disagree that no other group had the same impact. besides most 3rd gen groups debuted before bp and still had good ones. but each to their own opinions ig.

i can’t see cause mobile but you’re sigs are always beautiful :sj_weary:

i would like to kindly disagree since these legends still exist and had much bigger impact. boombayah was still an iconic debut tho.

i do prefer their cute concepts but all their later songs are really good too. :pepeheart:

i honestly like snsd with any concept. one of the things that really attracted me to them is how well they are at transitioning into one concept to another that it isn’t considered a big deal or unique like for most other groups. twice for example, everyone is making a big deal about how they’re...

i’ve always wanted to switch bodies with a guy and hit on girls with cringy pick up lines. i’m not gay but something about it is really appealing to me. :susPepe:

I wouldn't be surprised if it was @Jimimis tbh. :welp:

try facebook groups. if its a private one, that's even better since the admins reviewed each member so there's a less chance of spam occurring.

finally. i really love the concept they're going for. :pikahappy:

i feel like companies trying to appeal to the west really ruined kpop. groups are so limited to what they can do and a song is immediately considered a flop if its not girl crush. there are so many groups doing diverse fun concepts yet they go unnoticed. it wasnt this bad when cute concepts were...

i mean no offense but why doesnt he just become a singer in french? they have an entertainment industry of their own. obviously, people are going to admire or look up to celebs who look like them or they can relate to. it makes sense for them to vote for korean or asian trainees. its Korean pop...

sm doesnt even participate in their training, they just get stocks from the company after buying it. mnet is just trying to use the sm clout. esteem has nothing to do with sm. most models in esteem are people who auditioned for a trainee position in sm but didnt get it.

:yes::yes::yes::yes: and film their reaction. :jenniesmug:

i dont think 3rd gen is as diverse as 2nd gen used to be. its either cute or girlcrush. the only group i see going for a mature concept is apink and ohgg. momoland tried to fill the fun, carefree concept of tara but people give them so much hate. girlcrush concepts are just as overrated and...

reality shows are opportunities for small ents to find fame and hype before debuting their new groups. sm already has so many stans and established itself as the no.1 kpop ent so they dont need it. the money distribution isnt even that good with all these members. small companies need this...

just to clarify: i dont watch this show but sm is never going to send their trainees there. esteem is under sm but their training program is totally different and the main staff does not take part in anyting involving their sub-sompanies. woolim and mystic are affiliated with sm too while fnc...