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free of paid agency rigging at least. Did he rig members in to the s1 s2 groups for programming or composition reasons? we may never know. Edit unless some did treat him to a few nights out during the show and word spread that it worked.

lol i went to woollim last time i was in seoul (wanted to buy merch... but no store) kinda freaked out a guy out side who i guess was a guard ... But it is deffinitly not in gangnam. Does this mean my woollim babies are safe :) 2 kim 4 evr.

For the girls it really depends on how much the fix was. Disbandment helps no-one not the girls who were 'hossed' or those who 'earned' the spot. They likely would not be as popular but stranger things have happened.

Given that there is not a 'real ' line up since all rankings were faked from day 1. While they may or may not have the results from the live voting (and the online voting too?) no team is the true team. since no ranking was valid (especially if the final 20 were preselected from the start)its...

Try lost and found, and beautiful day they are softer.

my mom loves Wish tree, the red RV songs OOTN. Lovelyz most stuff gfriend and of course SNSD Apink i can add those if you want.

i could live with doing nothing if i got my girls back :) maybe donate the cs and J and mnet portions to a fund for all the rest of the contestants.

Just one music bank would be appreciated. Oh well :) Grats !!!!!!

We may not have a choice. Mnet /OTR could vanish them. i had 12-15 albums ordered and they sent the money back ... well not mnet yet :) 2021 was already breaking my heart, but his train wreck with so much out of their control is taking it to new levels.

i am going to have to wait for larouge to go on tour this time :( , but that is a fun pic.

the problem is that the top 20 itself is fake. So even if they get the vote for those in the finale they are no cleaner than the existing group.

she was dead last in the live onsite voting in the group battle MC singled her out for being so.

may be the kiss of death for the trainers too BJY and cheetah especially.

yea it is false advertisement but, its not theft on any legal level as long as the vote money did in fact go to the published charity. might not even be fruad strictly speaking. Basically they got a bunch of folks to give a dime to a UN charity under the cover of a paid vote (I think because...

well a dime. I am not overly worried about a dime a person. in aggregate it is a nice chunk say 40k, but per voter is trivial.

i went 1 but i am a guy what do i know :) I am not thrilled with almost every pic all yall pic for the girls . in fact i do not really like the bol 4 one i have but its the group badge now.

The new buzz is The show NEVER used the fan votes ever for either season ( i am guessing any season, its just tooo convenient that all of a sudden he would flat blow off the whole selling point of the show.) That is some cold and heartless stuff right there.

i forgot to post after i read it. Its nice and all but a hit is what they need now.

missed you :)

Well that is a know given before hand. The producers are going to tell the stories they want.