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WELL well well now they are saying that NONE of the ranking were ever real in either show...... (lets just say all shows are now fully suspect no matter what he said.) The group we have works. There is no 'Justice Group' because no ranking is real.

evil geniuses at sm ... Sorry man good luck.

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There is no justice to be had, sadly because it is so murky. But at the end of the day i watch it over and over and am entertained so it was good tv, and the group made good music and i liked the kids so i do not actually feel cheated. I have spent 5-6 k on IZONE with travel and concerts...

and to top it all off None of the rankings matter, the final vote does not matter because the top 20 were not the top 20 they have no more right to be in the group than the girls who are in the group. All rounds of voting were fixed. train wreck.

Well they picked a great group all by their little lonesome ..... if its true they ignored the raw data completely A. its complete bullshit to think they suddenly came on this idea.(ie manipulation did not happen in 1 and 2.) B. That is hard core cold. Guaranteed they played with every eps...

The issues is the whole premise of the group is in doubt. Group chosen by national producers ect... That is the selling point to the public in both Korea and Japan.

i thought of 1 other thing that may save it if its one girl and they just add her to the mix. But until we know the true extent of the problem any solution or plan is pure guess work. Most of it fueled by hate and jealousy. I fans (kura stans mostly ) are bitter over Wonyoung beating Sakura...

worst case is she is fixed it will crush her. This is going to sound mean but each girl proved themselves thru this year as worthy. Chaeyeon Minju Chaewon Yujin Yena Yuri Wonyoung Hyewon proved herself a stan magnet. as the girls who most often are doubted or listed as sketchy most really...

I am boring i play Civ 5 , 4 when i want to cheat (i own all of em but 6 is just so annoying. i want to take over the world not micro manage happiness) , WOW. pretty much exclusively.

Maybe this is at the heart of the mnet/ SM ongoing feud. I know it was related to the produce series and reared it head after BoA was done.

The dorms must be a disaster no one likely got any sleep. Its coming on 4 am there just an awful night for the girls.

i am preparing for/ embracing the worst in the hopes of getting a happy surprise.

I am insanely glad i flew to Korea this year and prioritized seeing IZ*ONE. The Girls we had were amazing and loved. The synergy was fantastic.

Ack not available in the US $@#$@$ them.

Raw almonds and a diet dr pepper knock off.

each country is different this is preorders from china fan sites in ascending order. Nako Chaeyeon Yuri Eunbi Hitomi Yena Chaewon Hyewon Yujin Minju Wonyoung Sakura But there is a variance in popularity for each oddly some of the ones most folks complain about are the most popular at least...

Very unlikely now same with Eunbi and Chaewon into Rocket punch. About the only way that happens is if they publish the actual list and none of them were manipulated. Most likely all 9 Koreans are done in the industry the kids are disposable assets. Company execs are going to be far to busy...

BTW Can Chaeyeon have any worse luck? Just when she catches a break it all goes to hell. What happens to the trainers btw? Crap Yena and her family. Eunbi suffered, worked her butt off leading 12 kids its got to be a train wreck in the dorms atm. Yuri. I hope she got to sing her song at...

they had temp contracts not perma ones probably just for this case. With IZONE it had to be hard international contracts are not a joke and Sakura especially and Nako were already stars getting paid fairly well. Hitomi maybe in the 2 k a month range i think since she does have a short radio show.