News Breaking: Wonho Leaves MONSTA X (9 Viewers)

[dokyeomon]

Well damn.

Han Seohee - the grim reaper of k-pop

 

[Darkseid]

I can understand JDE wanting her money back but HSH bringing up Wonho's juvie past is completely malicious, below the belt, unnecessary and so obviously attention seeking it makes me sick.
Most countries don't hold your juvenile record in your adult criminal history, you shouldn't have to look over your shoulder your entire life for something stupid you did as a kid. Let's be honest, we all have done stupid stuff, some kids just get caught. Unless it was extreme bullying, sexual assault or straight up murder, he's already done his time and received punishment in juvie. HSH using that to drag him is pretty low.

As for the money, it does seem like a legit claim which is why it confuses me why he just didn't pay her back to sort out all this mess beforehand. I also don't think it warranted something like him exiting the group honestly.

 

[Abeamus]

From my understandings that crime system is only for people who did really aweful crimes...

You can get jail time for littering

 

[Hajima]

You can get jail time for littering

You don't go to that crime system for littering... only people who did really big crimes go to that system.....

 

[Abeamus]

You don't go to that crime system for littering... only people who did really big crimes go to that system.....

It's rare but it can happen and all it is is prison for people who aren't classified as adults so any crime an adult can get charged for a kid can as well

 

[Ahsoka]

Try to stan good idols for their talents and personality not just for the visuals...

How are you supposed to know if their personality is real or not though? Hes a talented dancer, good singer, and he had an image of being a nice and accepting guy. Many people thought or think that he is a really good person, thats why a lot of people stanned him. Idols are putting on a show, you cant seriously pretend you know what kind of people they are.

If he really has a juvenile record how can they even reveal that? It's super illegal in my country

Its illegal there but Han Seo Hee has been convicted of multiple crimes, some of which were supposed to get jail time. She's from a rich family so its not really an issue for her though.

they all did the dirt as far as i can tell. She IS a piece of work but, these guys for the most part have been criminal, dumb or stupid.

Then again she's exactly like them, you can not like them and thats fine but it would be hypocritical to like her if thats the case. Actually shes broken many more laws than most of them.

 

[Hajima]

How are you supposed to know if their personality is real or not though? Hes a talented dancer, good singer, and he had an image of being a nice and accepting guy. Many people thought or think that he is a really good person, thats why a lot of people stanned him. Idols are putting on a show, you cant seriously pretend you know what kind of people they are.


Its illegal there but Han Seo Hee has been convicted of multiple crimes, some of which were supposed to get jail time. She's from a rich family so its not really an issue for her though.



Then again she's exactly like them, you can not like them and thats fine but it would be hypocritical to like her if thats the case. Actually shes broken many more laws than most of them.

No one like her tho lol. Sis is just spitting tea

 

[Willow]

No one like her tho lol. Sis is just spitting tea

I HATE HER ALREADY 😠😡😠😡😠

 

[Ahsoka]

No one like her tho lol. Sis is just spitting tea

Some people actually do which is why I was saying that, they think shes some kind of feminist icon. She declared herself a feminist and I think a lot of people think of her in high regard because of how many male idols reputations shes harmed.

 

[VillageIdiot]

You don't go to that crime system for littering... only people who did really big crimes go to that system.....

It's juvie, most countries seal those records because of situations like this. Mistakes made as a kid shouldn't be haunting someone in adulthood and from what I've seen some mbbs say, it's not like he had a stellar upbringing or support system. The whole point is the learn, grow and move on from it to try and become a model citizen, that's why they're called juvenile correctional facilities. He made a mistake and he actually paid for it, it should be left there

Yes he committed a crime but we have no idea as to what that crime is or how long he was in. It could be theft, online harassment, truancy, assault, anything. If the crime was really abhorrent, I doubt he'd actually be an idol rn.

He owes this girl money, and he definitely needs to pay it back, but he shouldn't lose his career over this, especially since this is really going to do more damage to the group than keeping him in

 

[Hajima]

It's juvie, most countries seal those records because of situations like this. Mistakes made as a kid shouldn't be haunting someone in adulthood and from what I've seen some mbbs say, it's not like he had a stellar upbringing or support system. The whole point is the learn, grow and move on from it to try and become a model citizen, that's why they're called juvenile correctional facilities. He made a mistake and he actually paid for it, it should be left there

Yes he committed a crime but we have no idea as to what that crime is or how long he was in. It could be theft, online harassment, truancy, assault, anything. If the crime was really abhorrent, I doubt he'd actually be an idol rn.

He owes this girl money, and he definitely needs to pay it back, but he shouldn't lose his career over this, especially since this is really going to do more damage to the group than keeping him in

How do u even know if he changed???

 

[RandAlThor]

Honestly this

I feel bad for everyone else but this has been one of the best years since I've been into K-pop

The music could be better, however

Obv i am disgusted by the entire burning sun spin off ect but its not like i cared about those artists any ways :)

How are you supposed to know if their personality is real or not though? Hes a talented dancer, good singer, and he had an image of being a nice and accepting guy. Many people thought or think that he is a really good person, thats why a lot of people stanned him. Idols are putting on a show, you cant seriously pretend you know what kind of people they are.


Its illegal there but Han Seo Hee has been convicted of multiple crimes, some of which were supposed to get jail time. She's from a rich family so its not really an issue for her though.



Then again she's exactly like them, you can not like them and thats fine but it would be hypocritical to like her if thats the case. Actually shes broken many more laws than most of them.

do not like her but its the deal my parents pounded into me. Choose whom you hang out with very carefully.

 

[VillageIdiot]

How do u even know if he changed???

How do you know if he hasn't?
He's worked his ass off for almost 5years without complaint or issue to make MX what it is today and is loved for his personality.

The only real thing that we know about this is that he owes someone money, having a debt isn't criminal behavior. It's not that he hasn't tried to pay it back at all, he just isn't paying it back at a sufficient rate

How are you going to completely demonize for doing something bad in his teen years when you don't even know what he did in the first place?

 

[Hajima]

How do you know if he hasn't?
He's worked his ass off for almost 5years without complaint or issue to make MX what it is today and is loved for his personality.
The only real thing that we know about this is that he owes someone money, having a debt isn't criminal behavior

How are you going to completely demonize for doing something bad in his teen years when you don't even know what he did in the first place?

Pftttt could be dismissed easily


He needs to work hard to earn money or he will be kicked lol what does even that mean....

And u don't really know him what he is like behind the camera to judge his real personality....

A lot of these idols are fake... It's sad but it's true they have to keep a perfect image to make living..

Take it with a grain of salt, but most people don't change at least the ones I knew... 😂 👌

 

[QueenB]

Its illegal there but Han Seo Hee has been convicted of multiple crimes, some of which were supposed to get jail time. She's from a rich family so its not really an issue for her though.

I read that she's apart of this too. That woman has her nose in everything. Seems like she only exposes people if she has something to gain from it

 

[VillageIdiot]

Pftttt could be dismissed easily


He needs to work hard to earn money or he will be kicked lol what does even that mean....

And u don't really know him what he is like behind the camera to judge his real personality....

A lot of these idols are fake... It's sad but it's true they have to keep a perfect image to make living..

Take it with a grain of salt, but most people don't change at least the ones I knew... 😂 👌

You think he's a bad person because he once did a bad thing. You don't exactly know what said "bad thing" is but you just know its cut and dry evidence that he is in fact just a bad guy and nothing more.

There is very little that we actually know and the only one providing evidence is a silver-spoon drug dealer who is constantly doxing and leaking private information about people as well as harassment

Some people change, some people don't. Like you said, we don't know idols real personalities so we shouldn't project our own experiences or assume the worst based off of limited evidence

 

[PetitBonheur]

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I can understand JDE wanting her money back but HSH bringing up Wonho's juvie past is completely malicious, below the belt, unnecessary and so obviously attention seeking it makes me sick.
Most countries don't hold your juvenile record in your adult criminal history, you shouldn't have to look over your shoulder your entire life for something stupid you did as a kid. Let's be honest, we all have done stupid stuff, some kids just get caught. Unless it was extreme bullying, sexual assault or straight up murder, he's already done his time and received punishment in juvie. HSH using that to drag him is pretty low.

As for the money, it does seem like a legit claim which is why it confuses me why he just didn't pay her back to sort out all this mess beforehand. I also don't think it warranted something like him exiting the group honestly.

I know right. There are people who went into juvie who became better as adults. As for the underage drinking, smoking, driving, many of us have been there. I’ve been there and although I don’t condone it now, I understand why it happens to young people. Did it make me a bad person? I don’t know. Normatively yes, I guess. But did I hurt others? No. A lot of my friends are the same, and we turned out to be okay. Some of us have our own businesses, some are professionals, some are taking MAs. It just boils down to how much you’ve changed and developed as person. I know someone who stole from a store way back when we were in high school and I used to judge him, but surprisingly he’s in real estate and he actually seems like he’s living a good life based on his pictures. Wonho’s in his late 20s, who knows how he really is in real life right now. The only basis we have as fans are what we see on cameras and on live shows. If he hurt someone, then that’s a different matter.

 

[Hajima]

You think he's a bad person because he once did a bad thing. You don't exactly know what said "bad thing" is but you just know its cut and dry evidence that he is in fact just a bad guy and nothing more.

There is very little that we actually know and the only one providing evidence is a silver-spoon drug dealer who is constantly doxing and leaking private information about people as well as harassment

Some people change, some people don't. Like you said, we don't know idols real personalities so we shouldn't project our own experiences or assume the worst based off of limited evidence

I agree, you should also stop defending idols based of a fake image they put on TV to make a living. Unless you know them personally... 😂👌

 

[lexus]

Holy crap. I didn’t expect this at all. There’s been so many bad things going on in kpop this year....

 

[PetitBonheur]

I agree, you should also stop defending idols based of a fake image they put on TV to make a living. Unless you know them personally... 😂👌

It’s pretty much just being understanding of a teenager’s actions. What he did as a young adult and what he did for him to go to juvie should not be reflective of his actions as an adult. If he served time, then he should no longer be attacked for it because he’s been punished according to the law. Juveniles are different from adult criminals because children and teenagers can become mature and learn from their offense. Most of the time, they become better people. This is, of course, according to studies and statistics. That’s why there are so many child organizations, social workers, and psychologists who try to help juvies because they believe in personal development. Murdering someone (intently), in my own opinion, is different. As for the others, if he served time then he’s paid for his sins. As for his debt, then he should be accountable for that. He should pay up and settle it asap. That’s the right thing to do. They should also settle it in court, because that’s how the process should be instead of publicizing everything. As for his past, as someone who wasn’t fully developed psychologically at that time, then it’s not fair and should definitely not be brought up.