Appreciation (G)I-dle becomes 4th GG to exceed 100k copies sold in 1st week (1 Viewer)

[spicy_illusion]

And the week isn't even over yet :)

 

[VillageIdiot]

Good for them but
I'm so confuzzled

 

[Suzy]

Wow they're killing it
I'm so happy for them!!

 

[perhapz]

I'm proud of them

 

[spicy_illusion]

Good for them but
I'm so confuzzled

lol why?

 

[VillageIdiot]

lol why?

If Im remembering right, this album is selling better than their entire previous discography.
Wae?
Was Queendom that big?
MMM is doing really well but not significantly different that they had in the past

 

[spicy_illusion]

If Im remembering right, this album is selling better than their entire previous discography.
Wae?
Was Queendom that big?
MMM is doing really well but not significantly different that they had in the past

Idk? Because it's gay AF?

 

[VillageIdiot]

Idk? Because it's gay AF?

Blonde Soojin is powerful ig

 

[spicy_illusion]

Blonde Soojin is powerful ig

Well I have seen the rise of fangirls crushing over Soojin lately, so maybe that's why

 

[jasque]

G-idle is royalty, now they can be shipped with big 3 on awards

 

[yeji]

the girls truly are part of the big girl groups now in my opinion. they for sure can easily compete with Mamamoo, Gfriend and RV I think

 

[spicy_illusion]

the girls truly are part of the big girl groups now in my opinion. they for sure can easily compete with Mamamoo, Gfriend and RV I think

Yeah, this comeback has proved that and I think they'll only grow much stronger.

 

[Abeamus]

If Im remembering right, this album is selling better than their entire previous discography.
Wae?
Was Queendom that big?
MMM is doing really well but not significantly different that they had in the past

I think it's more market growth than anything and 2019 could be a good place for 4th generation with the digital drop last year and physical sales going high in the past two years however the only problem is that'd mean TXT and Itzy would have to actually become strong enough to be leaders of the generation which currently they aren't.

 

[jasque]

I think it's more market growth than anything and 2019 could be a good place for 4th generation with the digital drop last year and physical sales going high in the past two years however the only problem is that'd mean TXT and Itzy would have to actually become strong enough to be leaders of the generation which currently they aren't.

I think we'll have to wait for the first national hits to see who will lead or flop in this though

 

[Abeamus]

I think we'll have to wait for the first national hits to see who will lead or flop in this though

That would depend on what kind of generation it is as there has been kpop droughts before where the Korean public is just not really interested in the large majority of kpop and between digitals and physicals, a new generation right now could be a lot harder for groups to break out digitally and could be physical orientated.

 

[jasque]

That would depend on what kind of generation it is as there has been kpop droughts before where the Korean public is just not really interested in the large majority of kpop and between digitals and physicals, a new generation right now could be a lot harder for groups to break out digitally and could be physical orientated.

That'd be interesting

Groups with fans from Japan and other countries would have an advantage in that case

 

[Darkseid]

If Im remembering right, this album is selling better than their entire previous discography.
Wae?
Was Queendom that big?
MMM is doing really well but not significantly different that they had in the past

Fanclubs, esp. C-fanclubs are really competing for those numbers and pre-order in bulk. Saw it happen with NCT 127 too, Blackpink fansites in China have already raised an enormous amount of money even though nothing's been announced yet. I think the same happened with IDLE. It's why compared to Twice and BP, the sales of other groups suffer such a big drop post Day 1. I mean Twice and BP sales post first day fall too, but they still have a less steeper drop throughout the week compared to others.
Queendom definitely helped a lot as well, but I don't think that alone would boost their sales to this extent. Compared to Mamamoo and Oh My Girl though, IDLE has a bigger i-fandom and a Chinese and Taiwanese member, so they'd have an advantage there.

I think it's more market growth than anything and 2019 could be a good place for 4th generation with the digital drop last year and physical sales going high in the past two years however the only problem is that'd mean TXT and Itzy would have to actually become strong enough to be leaders of the generation which currently they aren't.

Itzy still is in the best position imo, their digitals are the strongest among rookie groups by far (except IZ*ONE's Fiesta, if you consider IZ*ONE 4th gen but they won't be around long enough), their physicals are pretty good too. They're the only 2019 group to have crossed 250K sales on Gaon, which is actually more than TXT.

Of course it remains to be seen if any other GG's lifetime sales will even surpass IZ*ONE by the time they're done lmao.

ITZY does have competition from IDLE if they can maintain this momentum and success, so they aren't head and shoulders above the rest, plus the lack of any Japanese or Chinese member will probably put a ceiling on their physicals unless they break through and gain a massive C-fanbase like Blackpink. Who knows how SMNGG will fare if/when they debut.

TXT's spot is less secure imo. Ateez fandom is growing pretty rapidly and looking at how rabid Atinys are, gives me a lot of early Army flashbacks when BTS was just starting to catch fire. Not that they'll reach the same heights but they could become the top new BG with 1-2 more comebacks if they manage to gain popularity in Korea.

 

[QueenGirlCrush]

I'm so proud especially since I've been with them since debut!

In terms of why, I think its a couple of things:

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1) (G))I-dle has just been growing slowly over the past two years. Every comeback seemed to generate new fans, especially non-Cube stans and new fans to kpop. Those type of fans are important because they form a new and solid fanbase primarily focused on the group and are widen the reach outside of the already established company stans.

2) Their performances at festivals and award shows. Repeatedly I've seen people get interested in (G) I-DLE or confirm that they stan them because of their live performances. (G)I-DLE and their creative team always tried to do something different for major events which made them stand out.

3 )Queendom and LION. At first I did not like the idea of Queendom at all but the show really boosted everyone who was on it. Because it was foucsed on bonding and showing off the creativity of the artist, I think it fostered a wide interest in the participants instead of having the losers drop out of the public eye like other competition shows. Once again (G)I-DLE did not win but their behind the scenes process, performances and LION really boosted their hype already.

4) The new school of girl crush. I would say if the 3rd Generation was molded after SNSD's soft pop princess, the 3.5/4th is molded after 2NE1's girl crush. Except it is not a exact copy, companies are reforming the established patterns and this time are heavily marketing towards the female fanbase. This base has always been the bedrock of pop music but in Kpop often gg were marketed towards boys. I think (G) I-DLE are the leaders of this new school of girl crush groups, being the first major group to come out of this trend. Oh my god perfectly follows this, with the song being interrupted from a lesbian love anthem or embracing the "goddess" within in the mist of self-doubt. Either way notice it is marketed towards the young women and teen girls fanbase.

 

[Darkseid]

4) The new school of girl crush. I would say if the 3rd Generation was molded after SNSD's soft pop princess, the 3.5/4th is molded after 2NE1's girl crush. Except it is not a exact copy, companies are reforming the established patterns and this time are heavily marketing towards the female fanbase. This base has always been the bedrock of pop music but in Kpop often gg were marketed towards boys. I think (G) I-DLE are the leaders of this new school of girl crush groups, being the first major group to come out of this trend. Oh my god perfectly follows this, with the song being interrupted from a lesbian love anthem or embracing the "goddess" within in the mist of self-doubt. Either way notice it is marketed towards the young women and teen girls fanbase.

Yeah I think your 4th point is very accurate. I've seen this even with Itzy, where they actually seem to have a higher percentage of female fans lol. And female fans traditionally are good with spending money on their faves, so that alongside IDLE's slow growth and reputation as great performers might have created a perfect storm.

 

[QueenGirlCrush]

Fanclubs, esp. C-fanclubs are really competing for those numbers and pre-order in bulk. Saw it happen with NCT 127 too, Blackpink fansites in China have already raised an enormous amount of money even though nothing's been announced yet. I think the same happened with IDLE. It's why compared to Twice and BP, the sales of other groups suffer such a big drop post Day 1. I mean Twice and BP sales post first day fall too, but they still have a less steeper drop throughout the week compared to others.
Queendom definitely helped a lot as well, but I don't think that alone would boost their sales to this extent. Compared to Mamamoo and Oh My Girl though, IDLE has a bigger i-fandom and a Chinese and Taiwanese member, so they'd have an advantage there.



Itzy still is in the best position imo, their digitals are the strongest among rookie groups by far (except IZ*ONE's Fiesta, if you consider IZ*ONE 4th gen but they won't be around long enough), their physicals are pretty good too. They're the only 2019 group to have crossed 250K sales on Gaon, which is actually more than TXT.

Of course it remains to be seen if any other GG's lifetime sales will even surpass IZ*ONE by the time they're done lmao.

ITZY does have competition from IDLE if they can maintain this momentum and success, so they aren't head and shoulders above the rest, plus the lack of any Japanese or Chinese member will probably put a ceiling on their physicals unless they break through and gain a massive C-fanbase like Blackpink. Who knows how SMNGG will fare if/when they debut.

TXT's spot is less secure imo. Ateez fandom is growing pretty rapidly and looking at how rabid Atinys are, gives me a lot of early Army flashbacks when BTS was just starting to catch fire. Not that they'll reach the same heights but they could become the top new BG with 1-2 more comebacks if they manage to gain popularity in Korea.

I usually don't care about the positions but as a fan from the 3rd Gen era its going to be fun watching this new generation take root. In terms of the girl groups I'm pleasantly surprised that IDLE is ITZY's main competition lol. I would say as a JYP gg they have the strongest position like you said, they just need to maintain their spot in Korea (increase physical sales) and find a i-fanbase, wherever it be Japan, Chinese, even American. For IDLE I'm worried just because CUBE is so shaky internally and we still have SMNGG, Big Hit NGG, Nizi(?), and perhaps even YGNGG (🙄) to go. Hopefully they can pull a semi BTS and domint the Big 3/(4)?

I really don't care for any BG right now besides BTS so I'm not really invested in what happens in that area. I also think TXT's position is unsecure. Despite what some ARMY and Blinks say, Korea is still very important. Groups don't dominate the Korean pop industry unless they also get a hold of Korea or their one in a lifetime big break in the USA is big enough to translate into worldwide success. Other then that their just popular overseas. So TXT has to do better in South Korea and for the time being I would say Ateez is their main rival, along with watching out for Treasure's debut.

*Really, how well the new YG groups will be received by South Korea, the rest of East/Southeat Asia and kpop fans, is I think the wild card for this generation right now.