News The Boyz contract with Universe has been terminated unexpectedly without IST's knowledge (1 Viewer)

[Juniverse]

I feel really bad for the members, they're all upset about this, especially Younghoon. They all said some reassuring words on PM and said to make the most out of the time they have left :(

@The B
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[ChiaraStar169]

Without IST's knowledge??? Is that legal???

 

[litc]

I feel really bad for the members, they're all upset about this, especially Younghoon. They all said some reassuring words on PM and said to make the most out of the time they have left :(

@The B
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What the heck

will their current/old stuff get removed?

 

[LeeHoseok]

Without IST's knowledge??? Is that legal???

IST obviously knew the contract period was almost up, so while what NCSoft did was rude, they were within their rights.

Tbh I'm not surprised to see this. NCSoft tried way too hard to launch an overcomplicated, buggy app and has been removing features and trimming it down ever since, because it didn't get the user base they were hoping for. If I had to guess, they're either going to slowly kill the platform, or they're dropping all the artists who don't have the fan engagement to justify a renewed contract and continued investment to cut their losses.

 

[Juniverse]

dropping all the artists who don't have the fan engagement

I don't know if you mean The Boyz but they're one of the most popular groups there and Younghoon is the face/main advertiser of the damn platform. Even the reposted content on Twitter consistently gets thousands of likes, so if they are dropping for this reason, they'd most likely go for the nugus. I can't for the life of me understand why they'd drop The Boyz out of all groups, especially since it was out of nowhere and they were in the middle of negotiating a new contract.

 

[Juniverse]

What the heck

will their current/old stuff get removed?

Yeah it's all getting removed.

 

[litc]

Yeah it's all getting removed.

They better post it somewhere, so many shows there

 

[Chaeee]

I don't know if you mean The Boyz but they're one of the most popular groups there and Younghoon is the face/main advertiser of the damn platform. Even the reposted content on Twitter consistently gets thousands of likes, so if they are dropping for this reason, they'd most likely go for the nugus. I can't for the life of me understand why they'd drop The Boyz out of all groups, especially since it was out of nowhere and they were in the middle of negotiating a new contract.

Maybe Universe are shutting down and by throwing away one of their biggest groups they’re trying to slowly ween people off?

 

[princesita]

I'll break Universe and stop it from working

U do not do this to tbz

 

[Jewel]

I have a feeling we'll be seeing more groups being dropped/cancelled from Universe

 

[LeeHoseok]

I don't know if you mean The Boyz but they're one of the most popular groups there and Younghoon is the face/main advertiser of the damn platform. Even the reposted content on Twitter consistently gets thousands of likes, so if they are dropping for this reason, they'd most likely go for the nugus. I can't for the life of me understand why they'd drop The Boyz out of all groups, especially since it was out of nowhere and they were in the middle of negotiating a new contract.

You need to not take everything I say as a personal slight on you or your groups, it's getting really old listening to your defensive whining and pointed attempts at starting an argument, it's not that serious. You singled out one portion of my entire post assuming it applied to TBZ when it wasn't even my first suggestion as to why NCSoft might've terminated their contract. By IST's own admission, this was not "out of nowhere" since their contract expiration date was known. It also wasn't, "In the middle of negotiating a new contract" because IST stated that they had attempted to negotiate but NCSoft didn't respond.

What is clear is that NCSoft, a gaming company more known for their MMO games, did not have any idea how to run a platform like this. Universe launched with a lot of fanfare, features, plans, and almost none of them came to fruition. Since launch, they've been steadily removing features, and it's pretty obvious that they're sinking more money into the app than they're getting in return. Not just that, but by your own admission, fans are removing paid content and sharing it on social media against the TOS, taking profits from the company. If TBZ are as popular as you insist, it's also possible IST was trying to leverage them to get more money and NCSoft said no.

Tbh I've always been surprised the app has lasted this long with as badly as the launch and subsequent releases have gone, and how they put almost all of the content behind a paywall. It was built to fail and no one should be surprised when it goes down finally.

 

[Juniverse]

You need to not take everything I say as a personal slight on you or your groups, it's getting really old listening to your defensive whining and pointed attempts at starting an argument, it's not that serious. You singled out one portion of my entire post assuming it applied to TBZ when it wasn't even my first suggestion as to why NCSoft might've terminated their contract. By IST's own admission, this was not "out of nowhere" since their contract expiration date was known. It also wasn't, "In the middle of negotiating a new contract" because IST stated that they had attempted to negotiate but NCSoft didn't respond.

What is clear is that NCSoft, a gaming company more known for their MMO games, did not have any idea how to run a platform like this. Universe launched with a lot of fanfare, features, plans, and almost none of them came to fruition. Since launch, they've been steadily removing features, and it's pretty obvious that they're sinking more money into the app than they're getting in return. Not just that, but by your own admission, fans are removing paid content and sharing it on social media against the TOS, taking profits from the company. If TBZ are as popular as you insist, it's also possible IST was trying to leverage them to get more money and NCSoft said no.

Tbh I've always been surprised the app has lasted this long with as badly as the launch and subsequent releases have gone, and how they put almost all of the content behind a paywall. It was built to fail and no one should be surprised when it goes down finally.

I only recall us interacting once and that was well over a year ago, if that's what you are referring to then I am truly sorry you hold grudges that long, maybe you should look into why that is? Positive vibes

And I never implied anywhere that you were insulting The Boyz, quite the opposite actually. Because unlike some, I don't take everything personally, regardless of what you think. And you are in a thread about The Boyz contract getting terminated, am I supposed to believe you were saying that they'll cut their losses with the other groups that got their contracts terminated? Because The Boyz are the only ones except Yerin afaik. The 'out of nowhere' part comes in because they were expecting to renew their contract. And it was indeed a surprise, the members are just as shocked as Deobis.

"If TBZ are as popular as you insist" They are. They are that popular. They rank next to TXT in terms of popularity in Korea. That's why it's a shock to so many people that Universe would drop one of their biggest moneymakers.

Maybe instead of saying I whine and try to start fights, you should learn to have civil conversations or just don't enter threads of those you don't like, because it's not going the way you want it to. Nothing I said was inflammatory, I was responding to something you said in a normal manner, just as I would have to anyone else who said that. I am not targeting you, we barely interact. As you said, it's not that serious.