To Queendom or not to Queendom (1 Viewer)

[StirFriedPanda]

The only Apink member still with IST is Eunji. Everyone else left.

It just gives the impression of flailing which is like blood in teh water for groups.

Agreed, the level of incompetence at IST is shocking considering that Play M was a very respected company especially for being considered a "small" company.

she quit? how so?

I heared it was her 5th surival program she is taking part in...

Lee Chaeyeon and one other girl quit. And a girl name d Haein from Laboum. I'm not very familiar with Laboum.

Lee Chae Yeon And LABOUM’s Haein Step Down From “Queendom Puzzle" | Soompi

“Queendom” spin-off series “Queendom Puzzle” has announced former IZ*ONE member Lee Chae Yeon’s and LABOUM's Haein's departures from the show. Previously,

www.soompi.com

 

[Moguri]

The only Apink member still with IST is Eunji. Everyone else left.

Agreed, the level of incompetence at IST is shocking considering that Play M was a very respected company especially for being considered a "small" company.


Lee Chaeyeon and one other girl quit. And a girl name d Haein from Laboum. I'm not very familiar with Laboum.

Lee Chae Yeon And LABOUM’s Haein Step Down From “Queendom Puzzle" | Soompi

“Queendom” spin-off series “Queendom Puzzle” has announced former IZ*ONE member Lee Chae Yeon’s and LABOUM's Haein's departures from the show. Previously,

www.soompi.com

so there is no info why she left?

Wold not be surprised if its something along the lines.. "oh no, not this shit again, sorry I'm out"

 

[StirFriedPanda]

so there is no info why she left?

Wold not be surprised if its something along the lines.. "oh no, not this shit again, sorry I'm out"

Exactly! She survived and won to get in to Iz*one. She doesn't need to put herself through that. No one participating does actually...

 

[Moguri]

Exactly! She survived and won to get in to Iz*one. She doesn't need to put herself through that. No one participating does actually...

And yet they take part..

 

[StirFriedPanda]

And yet they take part..

I doubt they signed up, I'm sure it was more like Manager said "Guess what your doing!" I'm beginning to think Jiyoon might be the lucky one.

 

[Abeamus]

Yeah I think the hiatus is more bc of jiyoon leaving than the concept tbh

It could be over Jiyoon leaving but that's still a bad sign as take what fromis has gone through in between this comeback and the last from Gyuri leaving and it gives you the impression the company has lost interest in the group and while this is Pledis however not only is IST questionable itself but this isn't a rare situation.

Oh My Girl have said before that Secret Garden was make or break for them and if they didn't succeed they would be disbanded which this was the comeback after JinE officially left so WM weren't willing to push Oh My Girl anymore if they didn't get something to show for it and I wouldn't be surprised if IST is at that point with Weeekly.

so there is no info why she left?

Wold not be surprised if its something along the lines.. "oh no, not this shit again, sorry I'm out"

I don't follow her myself but I was told by Yoda that her latest song was doing well and rising at one point so it's possible WM pulled her thinking they could miss a potential opportunity for her to breakout as a soloist if she stayed.

 

[StirFriedPanda]

it's possible WM pulled her thinking they could miss a potential opportunity for her to breakout as a soloist if she stayed.

Very good point, I think Chaeyeon doesn't need a group. She's really shinning right now.

 

[Abeamus]

Very good point, I think Chaeyeon doesn't need a group. She's really shinning right now.

She was going to get a group I believe though as I think WM had trainees however when RBW acquired them due to not wanting WM to debut another girl group that could be direct competition to their own recent girl group Purple Kiss they put some clause that WM couldn't debut a group for 3 years apparently so Chaeyeon ended up as a soloist instead

 

[Moguri]

She was going to get a group I believe though as I think WM had trainees however when RBW acquired them due to not wanting WM to debut another girl group that could be direct competition to their own recent girl group Purple Kiss they put some clause that WM couldn't debut a group for 3 years apparently so Chaeyeon ended up as a soloist instead

thats really unfortunate for her, I think she really should have been in a group and I'm sure she also really wanted to be in one, hence we she took part in so many survival shows to get into one

 

[Abeamus]

thats really unfortunate for her, I think she really should have been in a group and I'm sure she also really wanted to be in one, hence we she took part in so many survival shows to get into one

I do think it would've been better for Chaeyeons success as Kpop fans are mostly group stans so even if 30k is still decent for a soloist I find it hard to believe she wouldn't have gotten around 100k sales in a group so RBW really put their own groups before their success there in my opinion.

 

[RandAlThor]

And yet they take part..

The allure of Wannaone/IZ*ONE type bump is just too strong for the kids and the agencies.
What Queendom did for MMM Gidle and OMG can not be forgotten either.
Queendom 2 has not had that effect at all that i have seen.

Honestly none of those groups except weeekly and wjsn are in a great place. and wjsn is nearing EOL.

 

[RandAlThor]

I do think it would've been better for Chaeyeons success as Kpop fans are mostly group stans so even if 30k is still decent for a soloist I find it hard to believe she wouldn't have gotten around 100k sales in a group so RBW really put their own groups before their success there in my opinion.

and purple kiss is floundering like the rest of these groups.

 

[Abeamus]

and purple kiss is floundering like the rest of these groups.

They are more straight up just declining since their 2nd album got 43k then they got 36k with the next and 38k with the album after but their last album got 26k which on its own could be just an isolated album and it still might be if their next album does closer to 40k again however I feel like Purple Kiss has lost the hype they had early on and this is more likely to be a continuing problem.

 

[Moguri]

I do think it would've been better for Chaeyeons success as Kpop fans are mostly group stans so even if 30k is still decent for a soloist I find it hard to believe she wouldn't have gotten around 100k sales in a group so RBW really put their own groups before their success there in my opinion.

@DarthPandaScare is probably the only person I know that thinks being solo in kpop is not the worst fate anyone can have

 

[Moguri]

The allure of Wannaone/IZ*ONE type bump is just too strong for the kids and the agencies.
What Queendom did for MMM Gidle and OMG can not be forgotten either.
Queendom 2 has not had that effect at all that i have seen.

Honestly none of those groups except weeekly and wjsn are in a great place. and wjsn is nearing EOL.

Yeah it makes sense... the upside is just too high, but still feel bad for Chaeyeon to have to go threw this stuff so often..

wdym with WJSN EOL?

 

[Moguri]

and purple kiss is floundering like the rest of these groups.

They are more straight up just declining since their 2nd album got 43k then they got 36k with the next and 38k with the album after but their last album got 26k which on its own could be just an isolated album and it still might be if their next album does closer to 40k again however I feel like Purple Kiss has lost the hype they had early on and this is more likely to be a continuing problem.

nooooooo what, but their last album was really nice, even though they messed up with not making Autopilot the title

 

[RandAlThor]

Yeah it makes sense... the upside is just too high, but still feel bad for Chaeyeon to have to go threw this stuff so often..

wdym with WJSN EOL?

end of life

 

[Moguri]

end of life

I googled that! but wdym! they just extended their contracts

 

[StirFriedPanda]

@DarthPandaScare is probably the only person I know that thinks being solo in kpop is not the worst fate anyone can have

Doesn't seem like IU, Huh Gak, Juniel, Yena, Jeon Somi, Tayeon, Lee Chaeyeon, and many more are suffering. I think as a solo artist you have greater flexability to change and find what works for both yourself and for your fans. There's a greater chance of longevity as a solo artist. There's also a greater chance of being able to recover from failures. It's much cheaper for a company to keep a solo artist going that doesn't have great sales vs. a group. I also think it requires a lot more talent and work to be a good solo artist. I admire those that take the solo route because it requires more courage.

 

[Moguri]

Doesn't seem like IU, Huh Gak, Juniel, Yena, Jeon Somi, Tayeon, Lee Chaeyeon, and many more are suffering. I think as a solo artist you have greater flexability to change and find what works for both yourself and for your fans. There's a greater chance of longevity as a solo artist. There's also a greater chance of being able to recover from failures. It's much cheaper for a company to keep a solo artist going that doesn't have great sales vs. a group. I also think it requires a lot more talent and work to be a good solo artist. I admire those that take the solo route because it requires more courage.

I do not even know 2 of those, thats horrible their fate is!

And sure I think most of what you say is either true or in part true and it sounds really great, if you leave out the crushing down sides