Why do people keep saying RV is getting FX'd? (3 Viewers)

[SaviorITZY]

Ever since the promotions of Power Up kpoppies have been saying Red Velvet is going down the F(X) path and SM is debuting a new girl group.

I understand that their new music is trash but F(X) never got thrown questionable music when a new girl group was about to debut. Experimental music was F(X)'s whole thing and it was never bad to the point where people thought SM was giving up on them. Are we forgetting that F(X) owns the kpop bible and after Sulli left and the group was pleaded with scandals they came back with 4 walls?

I feel like people need to throw Red Velvet a bone because it's a norm for SM to give their groups a new urrr... concept...(sure, that works) once they reach a certain elevation in their career. GG had IGAB, a lot of Shinee's songs from 2009-2011, etc etc.

My point is, Zimzalabim doesn't deserve that much hate despite how much of a noise machine it is. It is the most "kpoppy" song we've gotten in a while. When was the last time we had proper stage costumes instead of Fashion Nova outfits and random high end brands with big logos? SM's stylist is tragic, yes. We been knew, there isnt one fandom that hasn't tried to pull up in Hongdae on an Unnie.

The next fat ass elephant in the room that I should address is SM not putting anymore effort into Red Velvet. Literally what? If we want to look at a group that SM doesn't care about let's look at EXO. SM has taken the time to hype up THREE comebacks for Red Velvet. They're getting reality shows, world tours, etc etc. Zimzalabim also revisits their past songs and theres a lot of cute Easter eggs for fans. Imo SM cares about Red Velvet as much as NCT but are treated differently because of the different priorities for these groups. Luvies eat every little crumb SM gives us for Red Velvet while Nctzens can't even get NCT a win on the show. You see my point?

 

[SaviorITZY]

I said what I SAID

 

[VillageIdiot]

Soshi and f(x) Both got their weirdest concepts (GP approval wise) the same year Red Velvet debuted . Just saying
SM has a pattern with their ggs

Lukewarm debut→hits-→peak fandom achieved→trash releases afterwards.

The only way Red Velvet's discography is gonna get better is if someone gets kicked out or leaves in a really shitty way

Joy, take one for the team

 

[RandAlThor]

Soshi and f(x) Both got their weirdest concepts (GP approval wise) the same year Red Velvet debuted . Just saying
SM has a pattern with their ggs

Lukewarm debut→hits-→peak fandom achieved→trash releases afterwards.

The only way Red Velvet's discography is gonna get better is if someone gets kicked out or leaves in a really shitty way

Joy, take one for the team

unlike both soshi and fx though they are selling more on this end of their career. IGAB sold less than the boys.
RV does care about Japan far less than soshi did 2 3 song(well i guess ya can call em 6)minis, but more than fx.

EXO is 2 years older than rv they have to fend for them selves as sj was doing around exo time. They are just crippled by the lack of any useful tv duing their run like SJ and shinee had. Also EXO have had a heck of a run considering three guys up and quit 2 years in.

FX got killed because suili f em over. its not a coinkydink that fx started touring after she left. Also meu's were far far more fractured than luvies ever were.

 

[jasque]

That's why I stan Sulli

 

[emptycup]

Preach OP!​

Joy, take one for the team

How edgy

 

[VillageIdiot]

FX got killed because suili f em over. its not a coinkydink that fx started touring after she left. Also meu's were far far more fractured than luvies ever were.

I don't know how much of that is Sulli's fault tho unless you mean her mental health issues

f(x) was always seemed like a group that existed mainly to get Sulli, Victoria and Krystal out on the market.

I think the whole way the Sulli situation went down put SM in a situation where they needed to compensate the fans. It was the same situation they were in with Sones.
Sones got Phantasia and a 3 title track studio, and Channel Soshi, f(x) Got concerts, a reality, and a fandom name

f(x) never seemed like a group SM was actually serious about tbh

 

[SaviorITZY]

Soshi and f(x) Both got their weirdest concepts (GP approval wise) the same year Red Velvet debuted . Just saying
SM has a pattern with their ggs

Lukewarm debut→hits-→peak fandom achieved→trash releases afterwards.

The only way Red Velvet's discography is gonna get better is if someone gets kicked out or leaves in a really shitty way

Joy, take one for the team

#JoyGoSolo2k19

 

[RandAlThor]

I don't know how much of that is Sulli's fault tho unless you mean her mental health issues

f(x) was always seemed like a group that existed mainly to get Sulli, Victoria and Krystal out on the market.

I think the whole way the Sulli situation went down put SM in a situation where they needed to compensate the fans. It was the same situation they were in with Sones.
Sones got Phantasia and a 3 title track studio, and Channel Soshi, f(x) Got concerts, a reality, and a fandom name

f(x) never seemed like a group SM was actually serious about tbh

Its a misnomer that sm did not care or that they were unsuccessful early. Take that 2009 YE chart someone had early this week. 2 songs in the top 20 out of the gate. They were on the standard cycle until say ES era When they should have had the first set of concerts.

6/7 cb in the first 3 years with a year long injury to a member. is not ignoring them.
Chart change aside RPP was a solid hit, Suili quitting midcycle on RL doomed it

Sm has Always had a solo concert by year 3.
Fx is the only group that did not have one until year 6 after Suili left. There is no reason that they could not have done 1-3k seat venues.
I have little sympathy for Suili she knew the cost of her actions. The time to leave was after E/S for sure by pink tape if she was done with the life. Not continue to do what ever and assume there are no consequences or that you can avoid them.

Obviously SM changed stuff up after Hot summer/ ES and went with full albums, only SM knows why. I think that show with Minho wrecked whatever motivation Suili had and may have really got in her head. Either way its was pretty well known that by the end of pink tape she was done.

Vic or Krystal's shooting schedule did not slow the tempo of releases.

I also found it weird that sm never leveraged Amber and Victoria in China

Phantasia or a post dome tour of some sort was going to happen in any case.

 

[Panda]

Not gonna lie tho, doesn’t Zimzalabim sound like it was meant for f(x)? Lmao

 

[VillageIdiot]

Preach OP!


How edgy

Unstanned

 

[emptycup]

Unstanned

I want Joy to go solo so bad but
no joy, no rv!
​

 

[VillageIdiot]

I want Joy to go solo so bad but
no joy, no rv!
​

As a Seulgi akgae, I am unbothered

 

[SaviorITZY]

Not gonna lie tho, doesn’t Zimzalabim sound like it was meant for f(x)? Lmao

Sounds like an early F(X) bside at best. Even that is giving Zimzalabim too much credit lol

 

[jasque]

RV really lost a chance in 2018 but idk why "people" are so vocal against zinzalabim

Maybe they should just stop listening to red velvet? We know they wont though, they love complaining more than they love kpop

Then there'll be itzy, blackpink, Twice, izone, etc comebacks and the same people always complaining -_-

 

[jasque]

I don't know how much of that is Sulli's fault tho unless you mean her mental health issues

f(x) was always seemed like a group that existed mainly to get Sulli, Victoria and Krystal out on the market.

I think the whole way the Sulli situation went down put SM in a situation where they needed to compensate the fans. It was the same situation they were in with Sones.
Sones got Phantasia and a 3 title track studio, and Channel Soshi, f(x) Got concerts, a reality, and a fandom name

f(x) never seemed like a group SM was actually serious about tbh

And now knetz love sulli xD

Amber was the one that lost the most with f(x) situation

 

[Evergreen]

I love Zimzalabim but I can understand why other people can trash on it but calling Red Velvet music trash with b-sides like the ones in their three last album actually make me question the entire Kpop music quality.

Red Velvet just break their own record for their physical sales. They will be fine.