GFRIEND Sowon posts photos w/Nazi mannequin, past comments come to light (8 Viewers)

[honeyfornomoney]

idols know how easily fans get triggered but still don't seem to think before they do anything :d if it was me I would have been conscious even about the way I say hi

 

[Mayday]

Also: THE NAZIS WERE ALLIES OF JAPAN DURING WW2. She knows who they are.

This is a really good point, I never even thought of this. Not only is she disrespecting Jewish people, she's disrespecting her own people and every other group of people affected by the Nazis.

 

[Mayday]

Can these companies PLEASE require like, some sort of cultural sensitivity supervisor or something?! Istg so many just do not care in the slightest. Freaking hire someone to double check your concepts, set dressings, etc. These incidents happen over and over in the industry, and many of them are 100% preventable.

This would easily shut up the fans who say "They don't know about racism in Korea, they aren't educated about it ):".

 

[LeeHoseok]

This would easily shut up the fans who say "They don't know about racism in Korea, they aren't educated about it ):".

I honestly believe every celeb should be required to have some sort of ongoing sensitivity training, or every company needs someone around to keep things like this from happening. So many fans end up hurt because of the ignorance and dismissiveness in the industry, and all too often companies don't even bother to apologize or acknowledge that they were even ignorant in the first place. Instead they choose to stay silent and hope the problem goes away.

 

[lexus]

I just hope she doesn't claim that "she didn't know" and that she's "reflecting" if she issues an apology. Like how do you not know about this?

 

[LeeHoseok]

I just hope she doesn't claim that "she didn't know" and that she's "reflecting" if she issues an apology. Like how do you not know about this?

OH MY GOD, RIGHT?! Like, please save your canned apology written by your company. Either truly learn why what you did was wrong, or just gtfo. I hate when idols issue the, "I'm apologizing because I have to, not because I'm truly sorry for my actions" statement. You screwed up, own it, learn from it, and make sure to atone to the people you hurt with your ignorance.

 

[Mayday]

I just hope she doesn't claim that "she didn't know" and that she's "reflecting" if she issues an apology. Like how do you not know about this?

I've seen a lot of people defending her by claiming that the Korean education system didn't teach her lol

 

[LeeHoseok]

I've seen a lot of people defending her by claiming that the Korean education system didn't teach her lol

This is the best response I've seen to those people:

 

[VillageIdiot]

Uh....Idk about you, but that's still sus af to me. Shows they don't have respect for the kind of evil that Hitler was and that he is just a joke to them. Definitely not making things better, even with context.

It's still an ignorant joke but not an implied history of idolizing the Nazis.

 

[RandAlThor]

Where was the photo taken any way?

That is just weird, if your going to pose with soldier stuff normally you do your own countries troops. Unless its like the swiss guards in the Vatican or the queens guards in Britain.

 

[LeeHoseok]

It's still an ignorant joke but not an implied history of idolizing the Nazis.

Did I ever say that she specifically idolized Nazis? No. I said it's a common thing in Asia, not that she herself had that mindset, though we don't know if she does or not. I'd stop where you are because you're going down the defensive route and it's not a good look. Idgaf of the context behind the "joke", it proves they have ZERO respect for the atrocities that occurred.

Where was the photo taken any way?

That is just weird, if your going to pose with soldier stuff normally you do your own countries troops. Unless its like the swiss guards in the Vatican or the queens guards in Britain.

Apparently it was a filming set for something, MV maybe? I'm not sure.

 

[VillageIdiot]

Did I ever say that she specifically idolized Nazis? No. I said it's a common thing in Asia, not that she herself had that mindset, though we don't know if she does or not. I'd stop where you are because you're going down the defensive route and it's not a good look. Idgaf of the context behind the "joke", it proves they have ZERO respect for the atrocities that occurred.



Apparently it was a filming set for something, MV maybe? I'm not sure.

"The fact that SinB had her number saved as "Kitler" YEARS before these photos speaks to the fact that it wasn't a one-time thing and there are ongoing issues."

 

[LeeHoseok]

"The fact that SinB had her number saved as "Kitler" YEARS before these photos speaks to the fact that it wasn't a one-time thing and there are ongoing issues."

Where does that say issues with idolizing Nazis? You're making an assumption and putting words in my mouth that weren't there. Ongoing issues in regards to their ignorance of WW2 history and Nazis. You're just making yourself look worse because you're trying to defend. You're seemingly the only person who could not understand what I said.

 

[Abeamus]

Uh....Idk about you, but that's still sus af to me. Shows they don't have respect for the kind of evil that Hitler was and that he is just a joke to them. Definitely not making things better, even with context.



How do you even....Why is there even a stockpile of Nazi mannequins? What need does anyone have for them?!

The fact that she's comparing someone being "mean" to a man who committed mass genocide is still extremely ignorant.

That's dark humour though, everyone in entitled to not like SinB joking like that however that's a personal choice for you to make and you can't speak on that for everybody. Sowon actions and whoever was dumb enough to make this set are the problem here and SinB shouldn't be dragged into it for a joke that doesn't fit your sense of humour.

 

[Mayday]

That's dark humour though, everyone in entitled to not like SinB joking like that however that's a personal choice for you to make and you can't speak on that for everybody. Sowon actions and whoever was dumb enough to make this set are the problem here and SinB shouldn't be dragged into it for a joke that doesn't fit your sense of humour.

I wasn't really relating SinB's actions to Sowon's at all, simply was commenting on hers separately.

I personally wouldn't consider that acceptable as dark humor regardless but that's a matter of opinion.

 

[LeeHoseok]

That's dark humour though, everyone in entitled to not like SinB joking like that however that's a personal choice for you to make and you can't speak on that for everybody. Sowon actions and whoever was dumb enough to make this set are the problem here and SinB shouldn't be dragged into it for a joke that doesn't fit your sense of humour.

If you're gonna come in here and try to defend your faves, I suggest you don't. The genocide of MILLIONS at the hands of a brutal dictator is not a fucking joke, and if you think it is, there is something very wrong with you. SinB knew better, Sowon knew better, and you're not doing either of them any favors trying to defend it. A lot of Jewish folks are rightfully very upset at the "Kitler" nickname. That live wasn't even the only time it was mentioned. Take it up with them on twt, but I will NOT have Buddies coming in here poo-pooing peoples' rightful anger. They deserve the backlash, jokes or no.

 

[QueenGirlCrush]

This is a really good point, I never even thought of this. Not only is she disrespecting Jewish people, she's disrespecting her own people and every other group of people affected by the Nazis.

Shows how self centered people are. I’m sure pretty every family in Korea suffered because of the fascist and supremacist ideology shared by the Axis powers but just in 2 maybe 3 generations people want to make it a joke.

 

[Abeamus]

If you're gonna come in here and try to defend your faves, I suggest you don't. The genocide of MILLIONS at the hands of a brutal dictator is not a fucking joke, and if you think it is, there is something very wrong with you. SinB knew better, Sowon knew better, and you're not doing either of them any favors trying to defend it. A lot of Jewish folks are rightfully very upset at the "Kitler" nickname. That live wasn't even the only time it was mentioned. Take it up with them on twt, but I will NOT have Buddies coming in here poo-pooing peoples' rightful anger. They deserve the backlash, jokes or no.

But i'm not though as I said Sowons actions are the problem and if I was defending her I wouldn't have said anything of the sort, you don't like SinB using that and that's fine but it comes down to personal taste as I have seen people make jokes of that same fashion who aren't Asian.

Get a grip Ven as your arguing a point I am not making since I have literally said that if you don't like the name that's understandable but you don't seem to understand that

 

[QueenGirlCrush]

That's dark humour though, everyone in entitled to not like SinB joking like that however that's a personal choice for you to make and you can't speak on that for everybody. Sowon actions and whoever was dumb enough to make this set are the problem here and SinB shouldn't be dragged into it for a joke that doesn't fit your sense of humour.

They can make all the dark “humor” jokes all they want about genocidal ideologies that helped to oppress their own grand and great grandparents. But they also should be ready to take the consequences for their actions, I don’t want to hear any complaining from them or their fans. Can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen.

 

[LeeHoseok]

But i'm not though as I said Sowons actions are the problem and if I was defending her I wouldn't have said anything of the sort, you don't like SinB using that and that's fine but it comes down to personal taste as I have seen people make jokes of that same fashion who aren't Asian.

Get a grip Ven as your arguing a point I am not making since I have literally said that if you don't like the name that's understandable but you don't seem to understand that

Idgaf who jokes about what, SinB is as wrong as Sowon, Germany was quite literally allied with Japan, it's horrifically disrespectful. She deserves to be called out on the same level as Sowon, and I don't give a rat's rear end about your very wrong opinion on that. Not only that, I'm not the one who brought her name into it, upset Jewish fans did. You're still defending her by saying she shouldn't be dragged into this, what isn't clicking? You can't defend one and not the other, they're both equally wrong.