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Damn! I was not expecting this... I hope Irene can work on her temper because in these times she might tank her reputation and career in a blink. It would be really sad if she ends up like Jimin or something like that.
 

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here we go again... something new happens every single day and i'm not even surprised anymore :joshmeh:
the next thing we know is that an idol killed someone :nayeonisdone:
Daesung already did that ages ago.
 

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This person skipped the greeting and sat right down as this person began spewing insults at my face with her cellphone pointed at me
This sounds like something out of a "How to Bully 101" Book, yikes. Was Irene planning to film her reaction or something?
Makes me wonder if more idols (especially males) kinda know of this behavior and is the reason they are so awkward around her.

didn't come really that much of a surprise, I mean Irene seems to be more of the sensitive type that would easily lose her temper whatever she means it or not and doesn't really notice it :/
^also this, i'm sure most of us have experienced unknowingly losing our temper, raising our voice or whatever and someone else had to point it out.

I mean if so many people "secretly" liked the post and are kinda supporting the statement
 

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I mean if so many people "secretly" liked the post and are kinda supporting the statement
This is the most damaging part to be honest plus the fact that everyone defending Seulgi kind of makes Irene look worse in comparison imo....
 

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This is the most damaging part to be honest plus the fact that everyone defending Seulgi kind of makes Irene look worse in comparison imo....
it also makes me wonder how she is treating the other members if they maybe say something she doesn't like or sth.. idk..
I'm honestly just glad that Idols don't upload apology videos like youtubers do, just saves a bunch of embarrassment, I also saw on reddit that the stylist had a recording of what Irene said and this is basically just a apology cuz she got caught
 

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Like many others are feeling right now, I am rather disappointed in her behaviour towards this individual. However, I am not disappointed by the 'revelation' that she isn't a god-like figure, that doesn't have any flaws.
Shouldn't we all know by now, that idols aren't the flawless people that we wish they were?

Whatever went down that day is between the two parties involved, and the severity shouldn't be up for speculation. Likewise, anything that hasn't been officially confirmed (regarding supposed other staff, and even speculating how she treats her members?), shouldn't be used towards condemning her.
Condemn her for her behaviour towards this stylist. However, don't paint Irene in a way that none of us (as k-pop fans) know....

I truly hope that she does reflect on this, and I also hope that it's a rare incident. As this stylist and many more staff have praised Irene's attitude in the past.
But regardless of what has happened. I will continue supporting her and Red Velvet, because I don't expect them to be flawless, and I accept that they (like you and I) can have their moments....

That's all I have to say on the matter, though. And I hope that others won't make speculations on matters that haven't been officially confirmed by all parties involved.
 
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Like many others are feeling right now, I am rather disappointed in her behaviour towards this individual. However, I am not disappointed by the 'revelation' that she isn't a god-like figure, that doesn't have any flaws.
Shouldn't we all know by now, that idols aren't the flawless people that we wish they were?

Whatever went down that day is between the two parties involved, and the severity shouldn't be up for speculation. Likewise, anything that hasn't been officially confirmed (regarding supposed other staff, and even speculating how she treats her members?), shouldn't be used towards condemning her.
Condemn her for her behaviour towards this stylist. However, don't paint Irene in a way that none of us (as k-pop fans) know....

I truly hope that she does reflect on this, and I also hope that it's a rare incident. As this stylist and many more staff have praised Irene's attitude in the past.
But regardless of that. I will continue supporting her and Red Velvet, because I don't expect them to be flawless, and I accept that they (like you and I) can have their moments....

That's all I have to say on the matter, though. And I hope that others won't make speculations on matters that haven't been officially confirmed by all parties involved.
^^ This 100%.
 

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The situation would be one thing if it was just this stylist but with other people who have worked under SM piling on it's gonna reflect badly on her character and they also made sure to keep Seulgi out of it too so while we won't know what truly went on however it paints a pretty damning picture of her.
 

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i understand that all idols are only human and we all have bad days sometimes but the description sounds like it's much more than that. i can't even imagine what must have been going on there for her to call it the worst experience of her 15 years long career. this like many other situations just goes on to show that we never know what these idols are really like and what they show on camera can be different from their actual personalities. i love red velvet, but none of us know the members personally and most likely never will so i hope people don't start defending irene as if it's any different this time even though i know they will. after all i just hope this never happens again and i want to say that i'm glad she owned up to this mistake but then again who knows if she would apologise if it wasn't for the fact that there's a recording of what she did.
 

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Let's also not forget. Irene is not the first or last idol that does these things. We just don't hear about them all.

I'm glad she and SM came out and apologized and didn't drag this on in denial for a month.
Yep and I have to admit that there is something a little sus about this all coming out so close to their contract renewal...
 
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Yep and I have to admit that there is something a little sus about this all coming out so close to their contract renewal...
Is there? This would be a pretty poor tactic by SM as they kinda just ruined her reputation if this sticks so what would SM do with her if she resigns in that case?
 

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Tbh I wouldn't care if it was just a one off incident, there's a history of celebrities being abusive to coworkers and other people, and while it's nowhere close to something that should be normalized, it happens. Sometimes we have bad days, trouble controlling our temper and lash out.

But what's more worrying is so many of SM's ex staff, backup dancers, even editors of magazines like GQ and Marie Claire basically supporting the original claims, which suggests to Irene being a repeat offender. I'm not gonna cancel her or anything but def no sympathy for her.

Hopefully this doesn't affect the rest of the RV members.
 

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I'm going to post it in the OP to be fair but it is worth noting that a stylist said Irene was upset over her outfit and said the journalist is exaggerating
 

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Makes me wonder if more idols (especially males) kinda know of this behavior and is the reason they are so awkward around her.
i'll admit there was a time where i used to laugh at all the "irene hates men" jokes but this situation makes everything seem much more serious.
 

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I'm going to post it in the OP to be fair but it is worth noting that a stylist said Irene was upset over her outfit and said the journalist is exaggerating
Yeah but the journalist has a recording and SM clearly doesn't want it getting out, so must not be pretty lol.
 

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Let's also not forget. Irene is not the first or last idol that does these things. We just don't hear about them all.

I'm glad she and SM came out and apologized and didn't drag this on in denial for a month.
yeah I'm glad she apologized point-blank, no excuses, and took full responsability
 

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i'll admit there was a time where i used to laugh at all the "irene hates men" jokes but this situation makes everything seem much more serious.
honestly, I don't think so—a lot of the videos or whatever were from when she was obviously uncomfortable with the attention she was receiving
 

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