JYP has turned into what SM used to be at their worst (2 Viewers)

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They are falling into the same trap SM used to be in.

A group is ultra-successful so let us milk them for everything they have, until they physically cannot anymore and then let us milk them some more. SM did that with EXO and JYP is now at that point with Twice. I very much doubt JYP will change before they are made to. SM didn't and as JYP is already making the same mistake, I doubt they will either.

 

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Huh? She's crying because she's happy because she's gone through a lot to get to this state. Also, unlike SM, JYP actually has a much better contract, and actually focuses on mental health (said by ex-trainees of both companies).
 

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Huh? She's crying because she's happy because she's gone through a lot to get to this state. Also, unlike SM, JYP actually has a much better contract, and actually focuses on mental health (said by ex-trainees of both companies).
that doesn't change them being utterly overworked
 

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"Used to?"
You might wanna check on 127... :welp:
 

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"Used to?"
You might wanna check on 127... :welp:
So far none of them have collapsed, so I wouldn't say it's quite as bad yet... I hope SM has learnt something...
 

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that doesn't change them being utterly overworked
Sure, all artists are overworked, and that's not okay. But to compare to SM? JYP actually gives them chances to take a break if it starts to become too much, something SM never did. SM did so much worse. And if you think about it, JYP does the same to Got7.
 

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Sure, all artists are overworked, and that's not okay. But to compare to SM? JYP actually gives them chances to take a break if it starts to become too much, something SM never did. SM did so much worse. And if you think about it, JYP does the same to Got7.
I'm not saying SM didn't do bad, but I feel kind of weird that you are damn near defending what JYP is currently doing.
 
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So far none of them have collapsed, so I wouldn't say it's quite as bad yet... I hope SM has learnt something...
The members are limping around and one's in a neck brace...
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The members are limping around and one's in a neck brace...
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Not gonna say it's not bad... But still not as bad as SM was at their worst... I'm praying SM stops with that VERY soon...
 

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I'm not saying SM didn't do bad, but I feel kind of weird that you are damn near defending what JYP is currently doing.
Huh? No, I'm saying that SM and JYP are both doing unhealthy things, but what SM did is much worse, as they overworked them to a much stronger degree, and JYP aids their artists a bit more than SM.
 
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The members are limping around and one's in a neck brace...
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Hate that. Wasn't Doyoung seen with back pain at a concert recently as well? They're not only going to overwork them, but people are going to lose interest in the constant release of content.
 

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that's how I see it too. JYP in general did some shady stuff before but the way TWICE is being treated is upsetting me
 

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Huh? No, I'm saying that SM and JYP are both doing unhealthy things, but what SM did is much worse, as they overworked them to a much stronger degree, and JYP aids their artists a bit more than SM.
I can understand your point, but still I feel like you are trying to defend JYP with saying oh they are doing bad, but not as bad as SM so it is OK. You in my opinion are focusing entirely on the wrong part of this post.

It might not be your intention, but that is how it is coming off to me.
 
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I can understand your point, but still I feel like you are trying to defend JYP with saying oh they are doing bad, but not as bad as SM so it is OK. You in my opinion are focusing entirely on the wrong part of this post.

It might not be your intention, but that is how it is coming off to me.
Hmm, it definitely is not okay
and that's not okay.
But as that is the title of your post, I only thought that was the focus of this post. It's not okay for JYP to be hurting his artists like this. That being said, I think the video above was taken out of context, and that comparing JYP to SM doesn't really make sense, as they're doing 2 completely different things.
 
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Honestly, I don't think any of these companies will learn or get better so long as they have an act successful enough for it
JYP did it 2PM, Twice and hurt Wonder Girls chasing international cash
YGE did it to Big Bang, iKon and now BP
SM did it to SNSD, SJ, EXO, Shinee etc
CCM did to T-ara at their peak
Big Hit is doing it to BTS
Let's be real: NONE of them actually care about their idols. They don't .
Not gonna say it's not bad... But still not as bad as SM was at their worst... I'm praying SM stops with that VERY soon...
 

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Honestly, I don't think any of these companies will learn or get better so long as they have an act successful enough for it
JYP did it 2PM, Twice and hurt Wonder Girls chasing international cash
YGE did it to Big Bang, iKon and now BP
SM did it to SNSD, SJ, EXO, Shinee etc
CCM did to T-ara at their peak
Big Hit is doing it to BTS
Let's be real: NONE of them actually care about their idols. They don't .
I agree with you.
Every company did bad and will continue to do bad.
There literally is no company that is the best
 
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I saw a post on IG about JYP adding more dates to Twice's tour and going through the comments, I didn't know if I should've been sad, angry or just plain scared at the amount of Onces justifiying JYP and even going as far as to blame the girls themselves for becoming idols. Look, I am not Twice's fan but the exploitation they are suffering rn is awful and there is not justification for it.
 
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I saw a post on IG about JYP adding more dates to Twice's tour and going through the comments, I didn't know if I should've been sad, angry or just plain scared at the amount of Onces justifiying JYP and even going as far as to blame the girls themselves for becoming idols. Look, I am not Twice's fan but the exploitation they are suffering rn is abusive and there is not justification for it.
This ^^
 
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Honestly, I don't think any of these companies will learn or get better so long as they have an act successful enough for it
JYP did it 2PM, Twice and hurt Wonder Girls chasing international cash
YGE did it to Big Bang, iKon and now BP
SM did it to SNSD, SJ, EXO, Shinee etc
CCM did to T-ara at their peak
Big Hit is doing it to BTS
Let's be real: NONE of them actually care about their idols. They don't .
The worst part is that at the end, if you're not profitable enough, most of this companies will kick those idols without any gratitude or even respect towards them.
 

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