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Exactly my thoughts. The fact that they admitted it was her before the other side even dropped names says a lot. Usually they would try to hide their idols' involvement at all or they would threaten to sue but the first thing they did was admit to it so I'm now worried about RV's future. I hope the rest of the girls don't get mixed up in this mess and we'll get to see more promotions in the future... I just don't have any hopes though. :(
Yep, SM was unusually forthcoming this time around... it really makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes!
 
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i will say what she did was wrong and its not cool at all of her to do that. not cool at all to speak to others that way. but i feel like some people are enjoying this too much and i feel like people were waiting for something like this to happens o they could hate her which is so weird.

and JYP's messy ass needs to go sit down somewhere bc i drag his creepy ass
 

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saw some ppl try to deny Bella having worked in the fashion industry when a quick Weibo search brings you to her editorial work lmao

I understand trying to protect your favs, but starting lies is making the situation worse
 

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saw some ppl try to deny Bella having worked in the fashion industry when a quick Weibo search brings you to her editorial work lmao

I understand trying to protect your favs, but starting lies is making the situation worse
Ifans don't know shit and try and get involved like they do. It always makes the situation worse
 

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Ifans don't know shit and try and get involved like they do. It always makes the situation worse
it literally took me 5 seconds to find a recent editorial work Bella did

we should honestly just stay out of it until everything cools down a bit and the situation becomes clearer
 
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Ifans don't know shit and try and get involved like they do. It always makes the situation worse
Just like i did ytd, n immediately regretted it.

Been trying to desist till now-read ur OP, cos the context n responses escaped me ytd, since i avoided the 2 main places tat blew this up.

Still processing n will refrain from much more till i hv some firmer thots tat i may take some time to articulate. I kept drafting like 5 times elsewhere n ended up shortening my comment in the end.

Edited-added: (I cant even bear to read the 4 pages of this thread in between, ya know-n for the record i hv stated my sympathies elsewhere for those who hv been treated badly by irene, whether she apologised to them or not n i believe irene was/is wrong to behave/treat ppl like tat[it is entirely up to me whether i can reconcile my recent fan/biasing of irene since monster/naughty/lvl up thrilling proj with tat belief, my head might explide b4 tat happens tho.) end Edit-added part.

My mind, it is a mess now-Yes?
 
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Just like i did ytd, n immediately regretted it.

Been trying to desist till now-read ur OP, cos the context n responses escaped me ytd, since i avoided the 2 main places tat blew this up.

Still processing n will refrain from much more till i hv some firmer thots tat i may take some time to articulate. I kept drafting like 5 times elsewhere n ended up shortening my comment in the end.

My mind, it is a mess now-Yes?
fans are blindly supporting her, netizens seem to hate her; there is no middle ground unless you want to get jumped lmao
 

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it literally took me 5 seconds to find a recent editorial work Bella did

we should honestly just stay out of it until everything cools down a bit and the situation becomes clearer
Yikes first misgendering the original stylist yesterday and now this, some fans will do anything to shield their faves.
Even if they still bias Irene, they can admit she's made mistakes.
 

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Just like i did ytd, n immediately regretted it.

Been trying to desist till now-read ur OP, cos the context n responses escaped me ytd, since i avoided the 2 main places tat blew this up.

Still processing n will refrain from much more till i hv some firmer thots tat i may take some time to articulate. I kept drafting like 5 times elsewhere n ended up shortening my comment in the end.

Edited-added: (I cant even bear to read the 4 pages of this thread in between, ya know-n for the record i hv stated my sympathies elsewhere for those who hv been treated badly by irene, whether she apologised to them or not n i believe irene was/is wrong to behave/treat ppl like tat[it is entirely up to me whether i can reconcile my recent fan/biasing of irene since monster/naughty/lvl up thrilling proj with tat belief, my head might explide b4 tat happens tho.) end Edit-added part.

My mind, it is a mess now-Yes?
You're right to have an opinion, it's impossible not too. The problem is the ones trying to spread misinfo on purpose
 

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still undecided on everything
Same. She obviously shouldn't of snapped at anyone but at the same time there is something suss about this whole situation and I don't know what to make of it all...
 

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I'm glad all of the support didn't go to her head, I was a little worried that she might go nuclear and release whatever recordings she had...
She did well to get the apology she wanted, not now everybody's curious about this tape
 
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This isn’t surprising to me. Firstly I've always said people in the entertainment industry have to have somewhat of a ego to even think of becoming stars. The Kpop industry is very competitive and cutthroat, like someone said on another forum, the qualities that would help you thrive in that environment may not translate well to intrapersonal relationships. So stars being rude to the people that work under them or for them in a certain setting is not surprising at all.

In Irene's case we know idols emotional expressions are limited, she has to cooperate with RV, their manager and be subordinate to the suits at SM. Unfortunately she may feel the best way to vent or to express her negative emotions is at the people below her or people who she is working with that are important but can't really act against her. In the West I think we're more honest about this fact and glamorize artist having diva/divo moments. However in SK it seems just in generally there is a certain decorum one should carry in public especially as a public figure. Being demanding and mean-girlish isn't favored. This is especially true for idols.

Honestly this won't end Irene's career. I-fans are stans who will simply support her no matter what, using all types of talking points to defend her. She'll probably be uplifted as a Kpop Diva from now on. As for Korea us Western netzines need to stop acting like K-netzines hold so much power, they don't. So many Western celebrities have been canceled Online for stupid or serious reasons but as long as they have allies in the industry & a fanbase they'll be alright. Same in SK. Average Koreans probably don't care beyond gossip (if they even now). Many will still bump RV. Her K-stans will support her regardless, and SM knows how valuable Irene/RV still is. People lower in the industry if she continues to mistreats them, will have to simply suck it up again.
 
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This isn’t surprising to me. Firstly I've always said people in the entertainment industry have to have somewhat of a ego to even think of becoming stars. The Kpop industry is very competitive and cutthroat, like someone said on another forum, the qualities that would help you thrive in that environment may not translate well to intrapersonal relationships. So stars being rude to the people that work under them or for them in a certain setting is not surprising at all.

In Irene's case we know idols emotional expressions are limited, she has to cooperate with RV, their manager and be subordinate to the suits at SM. Unfortunately she may feel the best way to vent or to express her negative emotions is at the people below her or people who she is working with that are important but can't really act against her. In the West I think we're more honest about this fact and glamorize artist having diva/divo moments. However in SK just in generally there is a certain decorum one should carry in public especially as a public figure. Being demanding and mean-girlish isn't favored. This is especially true for idols.

Honestly this won't end Irene's career. I-fans are stans who will simply support her no matter what, using all types of talking points to defend her. She'll probably be uplifted as a Kpop Diva from now on. As for Korea us Western netzines need to stop acting like K-netzines hold so much power, they don't. So many Western celebrities have been canceled Online for stupid or serious reasons but as long as they have allies in the industry & a fanbase they'll be alright. Same in SK. Average Koreans probably don't care beyond gossip (if they even now). Many will still bump RV. Her K-stans will support her regardless, and SM knows how valuable Irene/RV still is. People lower in the industry who she mistreats will have to simply suck it up again.
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