Solo SEVENTEEN Lee Seokmin/Dokyeom/DK (이석민/도겸) Thread ♡~♡ (3 Viewers)

[GloriousHavoc]

it was posted by a fan acc then? ig its better that it's deleted then oof thats so weird

Yep, it seems so, doesn't look like a fansite even, just a normal fanacc. It's either: 1. they reposted it from another source, 2. they found DK's secret twt/instagram (lmao), or 3. they found his cousin's(?) account, and reposted it from there
- detective Havoc

But yeah, it was cute, it made me super impressed with predebut DK's singing skills

 

[Soogi]

Yep, it seems so, doesn't look like a fansite even, just a normal fanacc. It's either: 1. they reposted it from another source, 2. they found DK's secret twt/instagram (lmao), or 3. they found his cousin's(?) account, and reposted it from there
- detective Havoc

But yeah, it was cute, it made me super impressed with predebut DK's singing skills

intriguing deductions GloriousHolmes-nim, the mystery deepens hhh i'll give them the benefit of the doubt~
aww, he's always had a knack for singing huh~ i would love if he (and seungkwan) covered monodrama again! since they sang it predebut and right after debut as well, it would be amazing to hear his improvement over the years that way

 

[TinaB]

I'm 95% sure it was posted by this account, which makes me wonder how did that private vid leak...

@TinaB , have you manage to see it before it disappeared?

Ah I watched it once, I thought it was after debut though but I didn't paid attention to the images just his singing, which was great I hope someone manages to find it again.

I hope devilkin will post a HD for this, looks straight out of a photoshoot. Is this for a uniform cf or smt? It seems all the other members were wearing the same outfit too, and it does look like a school uniform.​

 

[GloriousHavoc]

intriguing deductions GloriousHolmes-nim, the mystery deepens hhh i'll give them the benefit of the doubt~
aww, he's always had a knack for singing huh~ i would love if he (and seungkwan) covered monodrama again! since they sang it predebut and right after debut as well, it would be amazing to hear his improvement over the years that way

Ghggfhjjj GloriousHolmes-nim And omg, yes!!! I'd love that!

I hope devilkin will post a HD for this, looks straight out of a photoshoot. Is this for a uniform cf or smt? It seems all the other members were wearing the same outfit too, and it does look like a school uniform.​

It's the outfit from their Knowing Bros filming! Apparently, DK went straight to the musical after that (or was it musical first, than filming?)
And my favorite fansite DevilKin is receiving a lot of hate from the twt hivemind cause of that photo...
They're calling her sasaeng and whatnot, despite being one of the most loved popular fansites before today (cause she was never on Pledis blacklists, and is generally known to be respectful and kind, and DK often wears her gifts). But, now it's all over, and she will be eaten alive by rabid horde of twt Carats. Those naive angry souls should be careful before slapping sasaeng label so easily. If she did indeed cross the line, it's on Pledis to will deal with it, not on twt mob who never know the full picture. But what those fans fail to understand, is that fansites are often in contact with staff and 80% of those those big online outrages are for nothing.

 

[GloriousHavoc]

Two old fanaccs, from 2016 & 2017

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[TinaB]

Ghggfhjjj GloriousHolmes-nim And omg, yes!!! I'd love that!



It's the outfit from their Knowing Bros filming! Apparently, DK went straight to the musical after that (or was it musical first, than filming?)
And my favorite fansite DevilKin is receiving a lot of hate from the twt hivemind cause of that photo...
They're calling her sasaeng and whatnot, despite being one of the most loved popular fansites before today (cause she was never on Pledis blacklists, and is generally known to be respectful and kind, and DK often wears her gifts). But, now it's all over, and she will be eaten alive by rabid horde of twt Carats. Those naive angry souls should be careful before slapping sasaeng label so easily. If she did indeed cross the line, it's on Pledis to will deal with it, not on twt mob who never know the full picture. But what those fans fail to understand, is that fansites are often in contact with staff and 80% of those those big online outrages are for nothing.

Oh no, I completely missed that. I hope she stays taking pictures, hers are really good and she's one of the more popular fansites of DK too, or at least it seems like it to me.

Two old fanaccs, from 2016 & 2017

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The fan accounts, the picture he wanted this for so long, I'm glad it was a big role too.

 

[GloriousHavoc]

Oh no, I completely missed that. I hope she stays taking pictures, hers are really good and she's one of the more popular fansites of DK too, or at least it seems like it to me.

She is! The outrage seems to have died down now, as she already posted new pics today
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Today is the last day of Xcalibur

 

[TinaB]

This picture

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[GloriousHavoc]

He cried backstage

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Omg!

 

[GloriousHavoc]

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[GloriousHavoc]

This video is pure gold:

 

[Soogi]

OHMYGO D HE JUST WENT FOR IT DJDJDJ

 

[GloriousHavoc]

OHMYGO D HE JUST WENT FOR IT DJDJDJ

WOW!!!! OMGOMG
He's either very light or that girl is very strong, I'm loving this so much

 

[Soogi]

Spoiler: not to be a negative nancy but

i can't even be excited for this cb when they did seokmin so dirty.. CRUMBS!! LITERAL CRUMBS!!! i mean at this point im kinda used to seokmin barely getting any decent shots so it's not like i was expecting anything but cmon.. not even any individual lines?? sure it's nice the other members got to shine a bit but isnt he the main vocal or am i missing something..? carats are praising pledis for not overworking him with this cb because he was busy with xcalibur, like they didnt make him fly back and forth for that j-carat trip thing and sandwich a show between music core/bank/whatever and that free park concert ://

sigh. idk what goes on behind the scenes so im not blaming anyone but isnt this too much.. and the way most carats seem to justify it is a bit..

 

[GloriousHavoc]

Spoiler: not to be a negative nancy but

i can't even be excited for this cb when they did seokmin so dirty.. CRUMBS!! LITERAL CRUMBS!!! i mean at this point im kinda used to seokmin barely getting any decent shots so it's not like i was expecting anything but cmon.. not even any individual lines?? sure it's nice the other members got to shine a bit but isnt he the main vocal or am i missing something..? carats are praising pledis for not overworking him with this cb because he was busy with xcalibur, like they didnt make him fly back and forth for that j-carat trip thing and sandwich a show between music core/bank/whatever and that free park concert ://

sigh. idk what goes on behind the scenes so im not blaming anyone but isnt this too much.. and the way most carats seem to justify it is a bit..

Dude, you're reading my mind! I'll elaborate soon, I'm quite pissed rn

 

[GloriousHavoc]

Spoiler: not to be a negative nancy but

i can't even be excited for this cb when they did seokmin so dirty.. CRUMBS!! LITERAL CRUMBS!!! i mean at this point im kinda used to seokmin barely getting any decent shots so it's not like i was expecting anything but cmon.. not even any individual lines?? sure it's nice the other members got to shine a bit but isnt he the main vocal or am i missing something..? carats are praising pledis for not overworking him with this cb because he was busy with xcalibur, like they didnt make him fly back and forth for that j-carat trip thing and sandwich a show between music core/bank/whatever and that free park concert ://

sigh. idk what goes on behind the scenes so im not blaming anyone but isnt this too much.. and the way most carats seem to justify it is a bit..

I tried to block myself from ranting here cause I wasn't sure if I was overreacting, but damn! This is just ridiculous and that excuse makes zero sense. As you said, they made him travel by plane, back and forth, from country to country, just for some random varity shows/interviews, all in same days he had musical performances, but somehow they are being kind to him by... giving him zero lines and half-second screentime for their highly anticipated comeback??? What the fuck. The least they could have done is film some nice shots of him, if they wanted him to 'rest his voice' this comeback, or whatever. As I said before, the last MV where he had decent screentime is Adore U. Ok, I'll accept Aju Nice too cause he was the dance center and had tons of focus in performances. After that his screentime only goes downhill. And Aju Nice is still peak Seventeen, fuck Pledis

 

[Soogi]

I tried to block myself from ranting here cause I wasn't sure if I was overreacting, but damn! This is just ridiculous and that excuse makes zero sense. As you said, they made him travel by plane, back and forth, from country to country, just for some random varity shows/interviews, all in same days he had musical performances, but somehow they are being kind to him by... giving him zero lines and half-second screentime for their highly anticipated comeback??? What the fuck. The least they could have done is film some nice shots of him, if they wanted him to 'rest his voice' this comeback, or whatever. As I said before, the last MV where he had decent screentime is Adore U. Ok, I'll accept Aju Nice too cause he was the dance center and had tons of focus in performances. After that his screentime only goes downhill. And Aju Nice is still peak Seventeen, fuck Pledis

like, yeah it's an edm track so naturally its not focused on vocals, yada yada, fine, but still, giving the main vocal literal scraps..
also, seokmin was probably on set for hours anyway, and he was there for the groups shots too. its not like he filmed those, what, 4-5 split second shots and called it a day. he wasnt "resting"; there was enough footage for sure. case in point, callx3 was even worse in that aspect and seokmin didnt even have any solo schedules so what was the excuse then? i wouldn't mind if this happened once or twice, but?? every.single.comeback??
i mean.. this is just sad ://


ig what irks me the most is how carats defend pledis with the xcalibur excuse when this isnt the first time they neglected seokmin (i.e. the getting closer photobook.. what the fuck was that?), yet kyeom stans are the only ones voicing their concerns

 

[GloriousHavoc]

like, yeah it's an edm track so naturally its not focused on vocals, yada yada, fine, but still, giving the main vocal literal scraps..
also, seokmin was probably on set for hours anyway, and he was there for the groups shots too. its not like he filmed those, what, 4-5 split second shots and called it a day. he wasnt "resting"; there was enough footage for sure. case in point, callx3 was even worse in that aspect and seokmin didnt even have any solo schedules so what was the excuse then? i wouldn't mind if this happened once or twice, but?? every.single.comeback??
i mean.. this is just sad ://


ig what irks me the most is how carats defend pledis with the xcalibur excuse when this isnt the first time they neglected seokmin (i.e. the getting closer photobook.. what the fuck was that?), yet kyeom stans are the only ones voicing their concerns

I agree with everything you said
All excuses I came across make absolutely no sense.
But this, this is the most infuriating thing:


Can you imagine that being written about any other member and getting this much support? What the hell!
When people complained about Junhao or Dino's lack of lines/screentime - everyone agreed, as they should,
but DK getting nothing at all is 'fine', because 'other members get to shine'???
As if his nonexistance in other MVs somehow blocked other members from shining? What kind of unlogic is that?
And accounts like the one I posted aren't helping at all. I was a second away from quoting that tweet,
but I have no energy nor will to deal with her sheep followers. I'm too old for twitter fights...

Spoiler

Anyway, I already had one twitter clash on PM with her a long time ago, and it lead nowhere, so...
It would be as futile as the resistance towards Borg

 

[TinaB]

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You guys are spot on! I was hopeful about his screen time because it was actually decent in Happy Ending compared to the last few MVs but this one is probably the worst. But what gets me the most are the lines, I don't buy the Excalibur excuse at all, and it grosses me out because it feels like people are saying he already got a solo activity so he doesn't need to feature heavily on the comeback, turning something good that he and his fans have been waiting for YEARS against him when it comes to his screen time & line distribution. DK got the most versatile voice in Seventeen, he shouldn't be limited to do just high notes or nothing at all, he could have still sung or even rapped.

And don't even get me started on these "now the others can shine!1!!" comments, it's legit one of the first comments in the MV. What the fuck! DK has been done dirty for years now, since when is he preventing anyone from shining when they treat him like a glorified back vocal. Suddenly the problem is DK and not the five members that ALWAYS get the majority of the spotlight in every single title track. He's the main vocal for fuck sakes he should be getting most of the lines, that's not preventing others from shining it's him doing his function as a main vocal. Ah I'm so angry, I'm tempted to reply to that idiot but as you said idk if it's worth the headache.

 

[GloriousHavoc]

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You guys are spot on! I was hopeful about his screen time because it was actually decent in Happy Ending compared to the last few MVs but this one is probably the worst. But what gets me the most are the lines, I don't buy the Excalibur excuse at all, and it grosses me out because it feels like people are saying he already got a solo activity so he doesn't need to feature heavily on the comeback, turning something good that he and his fans have been waiting for YEARS against him when it comes to his screen time & line distribution. DK got the most versatile voice in Seventeen, he shouldn't be limited to do just high notes or nothing at all, he could have still sung or even rapped.

And don't even get me started on these "now the others can shine!1!!" comments, it's legit one of the first comments in the MV. What the fuck! DK has been done dirty for years now, since when is he preventing anyone from shining when they treat him like a glorified back vocal. Suddenly the problem is DK and not the five members that ALWAYS get the majority of the spotlight in every single title track. He's the main vocal for fuck sakes he should be getting most of the lines, that's not preventing others from shining it's him doing his function as a main vocal. Ah I'm so angry, I'm tempted to reply to that idiot but as you said idk if it's worth the headache.

This 100%! I would't blame him one bit if he decided to go solo and ditch the idol life if such treatment becomes the norm. He looked so happy and (finally!) confident with his lovely and supportive musical crew, just to be treated like a background dancer by his own company. As I said, imagine writing stuff like 'Mingyu has an MC job, he does not need more screentime in MV, let the other members shine' - you bet it wouldn't reach 600+ rts/likes, and it would be controversial as hell - for a reason. But apparently it's ok to punish DK for having solo activities. As you can see, I'm still pissed. I should go to the beach and drink something cold